$3k/month in 8 MONTHS – Keyword Golden Ratio Success Story – Ellen, social worker turned marketer


in this interview I talked to Ellen
she’s had fantastic success with a key word golden ratio she has a site that’s
about eight months old she’s reached $2,000 a month already and it looks like
she’s on track to hit almost 3,000 this month when I’m publishing this video
Ellen and her husband have formulated a model to help you calculate the ROI for
a keyword golden ratio article so let’s get to the interview and we go deep into
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marketing you should definitely check it out good morning Ellen thanks for
joining me I’m really excited to talk to you today so welcome to the niche site
project channel thanks so much good to be here thanks for having me okay Alan
we’re just gonna get like right to the punchline pretty quickly here but before
we do can you just tell me a little about yourself and your background sure
absolutely so I actually am a social worker by
background I worked in the public policy field for a number of years five to
seven years prior to really starting to get into internet marketing and so I got
into internet marketing probably in 2011 I started a travel blog
actually and at the time I had read about all these successful travel
bloggers who were making you know tens of thousands of dollars a month or
whatever on their travel blog and I thought well gosh I travel a lot and I
was getting ready to move overseas and so I was like well that would be like
the perfect kind of online business to have to set up before our big move so
that I can be bringing in some income because we moved her my husband’s job so
I wanted to work to while we were overseas so I spent about a year
building up this travel blog and that’s how I got into internet marketing built
the travel blog up to where it was doing well making
probably about 4k a month Edit speak and continuing to grow when honestly the the
Great Firewall I was living in China and so I got just really shut down by by the
internet in China it was just impossible but I never gave up I just kind of had
to put all that on hold and then I returned to internet marketing a couple
of years ago once we got back to the States
so kind of a bit of a circuitous route into internet marketing from the the
kind of political world or the the advocacy world I think if it’s my
personality well so I like the challenge of it cool so now let’s get to the
punchline part so you have a site that’s doing pretty well and that’s how you and
I sort of connected and you know you launch the site in July 2017 right now
it’s March so it’s what is that eight months or something like that a half
months probably yeah okay so can you tell me about like the most recent
earnings saying like February and what’s the target for March sure yeah
so my most recent earnings they think in February was just under two thousand
dollars for the month so like nineteen fifty maybe and right now I’m on track
to make about three thousand for March so that would my goal is to crack three
thousand by the end of March I don’t know if I’ll do it maybe I’ll get 28 I
think if I can get to 2,800 lb you know fine with that cuz I’m good but yeah
that’s that’s my goal I think for my past thirty day as they checked it this
morning and I think I was at just under twenty four hundred for the past thirty
days okay amazing congratulations I mean you know a lot of people don’t get to
the point that you’re at so that’s a huge accomplishment and that’s amazing
and do you check your earnings like every morning cuz it’s like it’s pretty
exciting yeah um not so much because it’s
exciting I think I actually check it out of fear just to make sure that like
overnight my Amazon account didn’t get cancelled or something the same thing
with like Google Analytics I’m always thinking sure I have people on my site
so that I can check that it’s not crashing but yeah I mean I just like to
tick off the progress in my own mind you know kind of set my mind as I
go into my workday because I’m doing this full-time now okay
so I probably start around 7:00 or 7:30 in the morning if it’s a good day and
yeah that’s how I set my workday I remind myself with how far I’ve come and
put feels like I’m just you know really kind of trudging along during the day
especially if I’m doing the writing myself it’s a good reminder just to set
my mind that yeah you are actually making progress this is going somewhere
this is working okay awesome I check learning’s often too so it’s a it’s a
normal thing that we do yeah how much traffic is the site getting right now
like per day on average would you say sure per day on average probably on
average about 1,700 the highest days are usually Saturday and Sunday and those
just under 2,000 a day then any other day can be 1718 something like that so
I’m around 43 to 45 thousand a month right now okay cool and I’m just gonna
recap what just what we just went over here so the site’s about eight months
old it’s making between two and three thousand most likely it’s on an upward
trend and you’re getting over a thousand people sometimes up to two thousand per
day so that’s fast growth and I’ll point out I have another video where I talk
about the timeline of like starting a site and what can happen quickly now the
thing is usually the first six months are a little bit slower so were your six
months it felt like maybe you weren’t moving and tell me about it yeah so I
was completely prepared for the first six months or nothing to happen I had
watched a lot of your videos I think the interview you did with like Dave Fox and
he was just like Google hates you first like nine months don’t expect anything
good to happen and so I went into it like you know I’m just gonna do this I’m
not expecting great things and so it was probably I think I launched it in like
July and then around September maybe late August I actually heard about the
kgr for the first time on one of your videos so
it was so funny actually I was literally making dinner chopping vegetables and I
have like my laptop up on the little kitchen sill listening to you really
kind of tuning part of it out and then you brought out like a an excel sheet
and that always like piques my interest when somebody does something that’s like
somehow data-driven right um so I stopped like mid chopped and I was like
what is this guy talking about and you pulled up the all in title and he showed
me and so after that like right after that I finished dinner and I just went
and started doing a kgr research in my niche and I was like oh my gosh there’s
tons of these so I immediately kind of switched around that late August early
September mark and started just pouring the kgr content on I was at that point
doing only kgr and that’s all I do now okay basically Oh kg are optimized
content unless there’s something like oh you really should cover this in this
niche but there’s a thousand competitors who cares just stick it up there sure
so that was probably early September and I spent the next six weeks really
pouring on the kg our content and traffic started to pick up I started
probably get a couple hundred a day but the thing of it was is that I really
hadn’t gone through and like fully monetized the site yet because I you
know I didn’t want to have the issue with Amazon of like you know getting
kicked out so just like wow these posts are actually getting traffic maybe I
should go monetize so I spent the next week just going through and monetizing
all of my articles and within the next week after that I was earning so I think
it’s earnings I actually wrote this down in terms of earnings I think I earned
something like between September and October my total earnings were 58.92
and so traffic was let’s just say around 300 a day at that point going into
November traffic picked up to probably 500 to 600 a day maybe a little higher
on the weekends but for the month of November I earned over $500 so I went
from less than 60 you know combined two months to making
almost $600 in six weeks no it’s just food VR content amazing so it was yeah
after that my husband and I like we were driving back from my parents house in
Indiana and we live in New England and so we’re driving back and were just like
whoa this like legit works and so we decided kind of to really pull into it
at that point and and see where it go so I kind of thought oh well maybe it was
just the holidays or something but I’ve done better after that and my traffic
has picked up after that so I’m sure next year I’ll do better I’ll have a
holiday bump but I don’t really think I did this year interesting interesting
it’s funny I had a conversation with my wife in 2014 2013 maybe yeah it was 2013
and I started a site around the same time period in July 2013 and I remember
I was in Indiana as well funny enough and in the northern part your life has
family up there and we were yeah we were driving around and yeah I remember
talking in the car for like two hours about internet marketing back then she
had a higher tolerance for listening to me talk about it she’s had enough at
this point so oh yeah so I want to backtrack a tad so you said that you
found the kgr in September that’s a really cool story by the way me
picturing other people watching my videos like for real
what was your strategy prior to it that is a really good question I almost want
you to mention the other of like marketers that you may have been
following as a reference point cuz I probably followed the same people and
then I found my own area so it’s totally cool if you want to mention people
specifically I had done this before with the travel blog and had had some success
I’d had some articles that had ranked highly in Google and so my strategy was
just to do keyword research but on things that I thought it made sense that
people would be looking for in a particular niche and so I started using
kW finder was the keyword tool that I was my paid tool that I was using and
then I was also using uber suggest which is a free tool so and so I was using
those two tools and I was following pretty much all of the other leaders
the niche and authority site filled other than you I hadn’t actually
stumbled upon you yet and so you know niche niche pursuits Authority hacker
and I had just come across income school I think so I guess you know YouTube
figured out what I was looking for at that point and then you popped up soon
after so my strategy really I think I listened to one of them had done a
podcast or something and just talked about you know pouring a bunch of
articles on in your niche and give it six months to a year doesn’t matter what
the competitiveness is and I’m sort of putting words in their mouth there they
probably had much more nuance to it but I wasn’t really too concerned with the
competitiveness of the keywords I was using I just thought oh I’ll eventually
start to rank for those I was looking for once that in keyword finder would
have like a lower competition score but honestly now that I do kgr with those
that doesn’t line up so I don’t really know schools anymore it just doesn’t
prove true so I was just trying I was going to competitors websites that were
similar and looking for what they were covering and then I was just like oh I’m
just gonna do articles that are better and as since I knew enough about it I
could tell what kind of keywords they were targeting sometimes I’d maybe look
it up in some rush or something but mostly I was just reading the content
trying to do it naturally and it’s not that I think that the other folks like
Authority hacker and such didn’t provide valuable information I think that they
did and it definitely got me started I actually think it’s kind of a full a
full puzzle and each plays their own role so you know Authority hacker
specializes in like really detailed posts or podcasts on a very specific
issue but maybe if you don’t buy their course you’re not getting quite the
how-to so what was really missing for me and my strategy and in the people that I
was following what was kind of that exact how to a forum I really wanted a
formula and so when I was sitting there chopping vegetables and I hear you pull
out this excel sheet you know and you start going over this more
I was like finally you know somebody has done what I what I was looking for so
some of the articles that I published before that I had kind of found okay I
competitor covers this they do sometimes get traffic but they hardly ever do like
if I had just kept with that strategy I might get a hundred views a month and
and actually I have a second site that I was focusing on more than the current
site at the time and I didn’t use kgr for it and so I’m going back now and
kind of kgr a it if you will and it gets like a hundred views a day and you know
I kind of follow some different strategies you know some of that was my
own doing others maybe I was listening to other folks but yeah so I think I
think pulling pieces from kind of everybody’s teaching has been helpful at
least in terms of my progress yes and it totally thanks for all that background
by the way it’s really helpful because I mean I learned from you know niche
pursuits and Spencer and then authority hacker and I you know to be honest I
haven’t gone through their courses and stuff but from afar it looks like they
follow roughly the same type of model if I just had to guess and I think you’re
right about pulling the pieces from different sources and you had enough
experience so you knew which pieces to pull yeah
often times I say yeah because it’s really easy to pull the wrong piece of
each of the right pieces and then yeah you know much worse off then and you
don’t understand why but you already knew because you had a site in the past
I had the site in the past I’d been studying internet marketing for a long
time and also I should add I actually had the time so kind of a key piece in
my story in terms of why I even got started doing this anyway was because
with my husband’s job we actually ended up having to move quite a bit so I was
just you know gonna be in a position where I was always going to have to be
leaving a job or moving to a new city with no contacts trying to get a job so
I wanted to do something that I could do from anywhere in the world
and that wouldn’t be dependent upon his job
said that I didn’t feel like every time we move I have to give up my life and
you know I wanted to be able to take it with me and so we decided together as a
couple that this would be our strategy was to have me focus on this full-time
and having that time did make a huge difference because I could kind of
distill down all of that knowledge and the information that I was following
from everybody and have time to wrap my brain around it pick and choose what I
wanted to do and also test it out and so I think if you’re just if you’re in a
position to where maybe you have an hour a day to spend on your niche site or
maybe even less plus you’re trying to consume information from people that can
be really different they’re difficult and I think that’s where it’s very
helpful to have a structured course because what you’re essentially paying
for in a course is not just the knowledge I mean a lot of that knowledge
you and the others provide for free on YouTube but the other piece of it is
well here’s all that information in the order you need it
in the framework that you need it and you can maximize your time so it’s you
know value for money and kind of the time value of money that’s important to
you sure so I have to add that I think my situation is a little different I
don’t want people to think that I’m just like oh yeah like you can just find your
work you know every thousand dollars a month at six months away right you know
it took a lot of hard work I probably spend over eight hours a day on this at
this point I hire writers I do some writing on my own a little bit of both
but right now it’s not passive for me got it and and by the way you haven’t
taken any of my courses right I hope not okay no and and I think well that’s key
to point out – right like you don’t need the courses there’s plenty of
information and often time I mean you made a great point for me so thanks but
the course five-figure niche site like it’s almost more important not more
important but it’s just as important what I don’t put in and I omit from the
course because there are many many strategies and details to give you like
tiny incremental gains they’re very not necessarily a bit advanced in complexity
but they’re advanced in applications so if you
who are you know six weeks into your site you’re trying to do something for
us like that I would do for a site that’s like three years old you’re
probably wasting your time you know you’re probably not gonna get anything
out of it so it’s really key to know like what to do and when and in the
right order so no one piece is really hard it’s just if you have to do a
hundred steps and do them in the right order you want to make sure you’re doing
the right thing especially if you only have like an hour a day so yeah
definitely yeah I would I would recommend the course just from what I
know of the outline they’ve provided for it and the content you’ve provided
online I can say definitively that if I hadn’t had the prior experience building
sites and doing internet marketing on some level and if I didn’t have the time
available to do it like I do I would absolutely be paying for the
course unless I just somehow miraculously
found thousands of kgr term and you know was able to do that myself and was like
oh I think this is working it really and of course I think the project management
aspect that you bring to it is very helpful and I tend toward being very
project management oriented myself even on not a PMP but I am good at managing
you know projects and teams and stuff and so I think that if I didn’t have
that I would absolutely name the course in order to succeed so cool I would put
out there for people to certainly consider thanks for saying that
appreciate it okay I want to move to something very interesting I’ve heard
people well people have asked me about it and I just haven’t done the research
because I didn’t think it was something you could calculate it so you have sort
of a hypothesis about the ROI for a keyword golden ratio article can you
just walk me through an example and explain how this works and by the way I
can I’ll probably put some some numbers up on the screen to help people
visualize as you’re talking through it great it’s fantastic yes so this is the
formula that has worked for me and proven true for me results may not
necessarily be applicable to and transferable to everyone but I had heard
I think on income school or you that the idea of you could earn one dollar per
month for every view you got in one day so for
example if you’re getting 1800 views a day consistently then you would
theoretically be making $1,800 a month and so I latched on to that like you
know oh this can’t be that hard like surely if I just do that you know I’ll
be able to get to that point and so I wanted to see what that would look like
you know for my particular niche and regarding the kgr specifically so I’ll
have to refer to my notes a little bit on this one but I do pay for some of my
content I’ve probably written half of it and paid for the other half
and so this ROI calculation is based on paying $20 for an article so sometimes
I’ll pay more than that but this is just kind of general $20 an article so if you
pay $20 an article right now with my current traffic I’m getting 2.5 visits
per day per kg our article so I took out all those other articles that I
published before and this these calculations don’t include that so about
two and a half visits a day per kg our article on average I’m earning about a
dollar fifty for each of those views so it comes out to one article times two
and a half years a day times 1.5 views and that gives you total for how much
you can expect that article to earn for you so an example of this would be to
put it in practical terms let’s say I order a hundred kgr articles at $20 a
piece for a total of $2,000 so I’m looking at how quickly am I going to
make a return on that investment is that really gonna pay off and if so how
quickly is that going to happen so I’ve paid two thousand dollars for
these articles and just for the sake of this let’s forget the Google sandbox
let’s assume they start getting traffic like right away your site’s not new yeah
your say it’s not new they’re gonna start ranking immediately so each post
is receiving two and a half years a day earning an average of $1 fifty each
that’s gonna give me on those 100 posts two hundred and fifty dollars per month
just for that batch of 100 so I spent $2,000 total so after six months I would
have earned $1,500 off of those articles so at six months I haven’t quite made
back my initial investment but I’m getting close and then after twelve
months I will have earned assuming no growth whoo static results they’ll earn
$3,000 total for the 12-month period so 2,000 ends up with your 2,000 back plus
a thousand more so I get a 50% return on my investment every couped might cost in
four to six months and then he did the year with like a 200% return on my
investment it just kind of depends on how each article performs but that’s
just kind of an average I’m going for the goal of within six months I want to
make back my money and within the next six months so within twelve months I
want to double my money and so as an investor in the stock market that’s
pretty impressive to me that like in one year I could double my money
right you know it makes me a couple years to double my money in a good
recovery you know I I might not get to that point for like five years or
something it’s actually really impressive because they think people
probably are like oh I don’t want to spend money on content if I don’t know
it’s going to work my suggestion would be spend a little money on content or a
lot of time writing it and prove it I think the example you use is ten posts
you know maybe do 35 or something like that something a little bigger because
you know not all the kgr terms will end up ranking most probable but they it’s
not guaranteed so you know experiment with it with kind of a smaller batch and
then once you earn money off of that batch my recommendation at least would
be don’t be afraid to pour that money back into scaling your business and you
know paying for content or writing content yourself but yeah so from an
investment perspective I actually think it’s really very interesting because I’m
sure that holds a lot of people back is this you feel like you’re spending money
by paying for content but in reality after a year you know that that may
allow you and if you know Amazon Associates
program stays around and Google doesn’t penalize you you’re just gonna keep
accelerating that growth and so it’s gonna pay off so much more down the lock
you know in the long run so cool this is amazing and I have not come up with some
such a model right I haven’t come up with a model like this number one I feel
like I spend most of my time still trying to convince people that it can
work so those comments are pretty funny when I get them but I appreciate it
nevertheless so this is really cool and I like that you know you made innocent
like you made a number of assumptions but you move forward right we don’t ever
have complete data so you came up with your best you know guesses in the
beginning and then as you got more data you were able to go and apply it more
specifically what were you gonna say yeah this this data is probably based on
my performance about four to six weeks ago so you know maybe I’m earning more
than a dollar fifty per article I tried to kind of just lowball it I wanted like
worst case scenario what am I gonna do what am I gonna get in terms of my
return yeah and so so I’m continuing to scale as result of that and and I think
it also should be added in terms of like does the kg artwork like yes it does
work that doesn’t mean that everyone can do it mm-hmm so so sometimes the problem
is not with kgr it could be in how the person is doing kgr or other problems
with the site like I think we shouldn’t just jump to the conclusion that it’s
cagey ours fall just in the same way we shouldn’t jump to the conclusion that
you know it’s the website owners fault it could be a number of factors and I
just encourage people like what do you have to lose if you don’t want to spend
the money on kgr content right at yourself take a month and do it all
you’ve lost is your time right worse that can do is make you money that’s
right that’s right we’re things to happen in the world and then you work
for a couple hours and it makes you money so cool you know again it’s it’s
really awesome to see how you like made some good assumptions and move forward
so as I was listening to you explain it I’m thinking about you know your proud
in the sweet spot of like those averages and stuff do you have any predictions on
where the model falls apart like some amount of traffic or some amount of
articles or something like that yeah at this point the main threats to the model
are what would be threats to all of us like if Amazon you know changes their
affiliate program or does away with it then well that sucks and then if I was
to get some sort of Google penalty that could impact it I do notice I do that
kind of a Google dance sometimes I will change positions but I’m still usually
up there so I think if I was to get penalized then obviously it would it
would drop off significantly I feel like the other week I had a low weak in terms
of traffic but my earnings still continue to go up so I think it’s kind
of it all depends on who comes to your site on what they order right like my
products are not changing price but the visitors to my site are changing and
what they buy does change so I don’t know if it falls apart
just on its own without some kind of external catalyst in terms of kind of
going forward projections that I have I’m assuming no growth for my
projections I assume no growth so if I have an article that shrinking four or
five I’m assuming it does not become number one mm-hmm
that’s what my calculation is based on it’s also based on if I have an article
that’s number one I’m assuming it doesn’t go to number five weight you
know all things being constant my weight of growth is adding more content other
people could take a totally different approach add a lot of backlinks
skyrocket those four or five positions up to one and to probably double or
triple their page views a month and probably earnings go along with that I’m
not assuming that will happen and right now my focus is on scaling with content
rather than this links I’m not an tied by any means in fact one of the reasons
my travel site did so well in a competitive niche
I mean it had like almost 700 backlinks kind of by that she’s there so and and
all that was more or less organic you know I think that there were shady or
tactics back then like I think the shadiest I ever did which I didn’t
realize was shady was like a link exchange like you know there’s some
great resources other travel blogs you know I didn’t do PB ends you know none
of that but so I don’t plan to do any of that going forward I’m just hoping to
generate natural backlinks then maybe do some intentional backlinks kind of the
second half of this year after the content is scaled so cool we haven’t
talked about backlinks at all so have you done any link building for this site
at all no I haven’t and for the other site that that’s not really monetized
and not really earning as a result I haven’t done any backlink building for
that either but it was generating it much more naturally on its own than my
site that is earning so I thought that was interesting and it kind of sets me
like okay in the next six months you really should take this seriously I
haven’t even done any blog commenting on it I should be doing that I would
recommend your listeners to be doing that no idea how much it would help you
know my current content at this point I think you know backlinks are just good
practice in SEO so so what do you think the other site is getting like natural
backlinks it was kind of accidentally an undercover DS of content that was very
well organized it was like blank waits to blank and you know just just a very
linkable article and then it kind of had a sister article and so then people
would kind of click over to that and maybe they’d link to one or the other
they were semi-related and and then there were some other articles on there
that I don’t remember that that got more natural backlinks but I think it was the
type of information that people are actually wanting to include and a link
to in their own posts whereas with my money site who’s gonna link to best x4y
right like in in their own article like here go to this other website and you
know click on their links so cool I think that’s why but it’s mine I have no
data that’s right well may sense I mean it’s rare when people are
gonna link to an affiliate article a lot of times those are okay resources but I
mean a lot of us know they’re not the best we’re literally trying to review
and sell something so people yeah yeah even if it provides valuable information
which I always told my writers that’s our ultimate goal our only goal is not
to sell this product our ultimate goal is to provide the reader with the
information they need to make an informed choice because they’re the
expert in whatever it is that they’re wanting to buy for so you you know brew
beer I don’t need to tell you you know certain things about that you I just
need to provide certain information that helps you draw an informed conclusion
and so that’s they may link because my articles do provide that valuable
information but if they know probably enough right they’re probably I’m gonna
get this guy’s them you know some affiliate commissions is my link to that
why would I want to do that unless they’re an affiliate yeah they
understand it you know so right so let’s sort of shift gears kind of move to the
motivation area so you know you’re working on your own you have any tips
for people that are trying to do this on on the side or just in general like if
they’re just getting started yeah well I think the first thing is it
does work and it is worth it but just keep in mind that this is kind of not
something that’s gonna make you money overnight if you’re needing money now go
get you know yours use the term you know go take a ditch well that’s you know
probably a really good idea actually you know go get a job elsewhere if you
really need a side hustle that brings you in money now but if you are wanting
something that will bring you in passive income for the long term then my number
one piece of advice is just like stick with it and you know don’t be afraid to
get creative so I’m posting on a lot of keywords that a lot of my long title
searches result in no other searches coming after and I think to myself why
is that and I’m like well I guess I looked at the
problem differently right so I think you know don’t be afraid to think outside of
the box and say okay well what are other competitors and my niche doing I’m not
gonna do that right I’m not cover those terms I’m not
gonna try to beat them I’m gonna go around the back door and you know cover
covered these other topics so I would say that can I just don’t be afraid to
think outside the box and take a different approach than what others in
the field seems to be doing I’d say you know and then I think the other thing is
like time management so you know if I wasn’t doing this full-time I would have
to set aside some time in the evenings to do it and what I did for my travel
blog I was working full-time for an entire year while I was building up that
site probably four nights out of the week I spent two to three hours in the
evenings doing it that was tough I mean I didn’t you know
my husband and I would eat dinner together and then kind of do our own
thing maybe in the same but it was still you know sad yeah
so you’re gonna have to make sacrifices like that and talk with your spouse your
partner and your children about what they’re comfortable with and be on the
same page with you know anyone in your family or your household anyone else who
is a significant part of your life just be on the same page and discuss it with
them in terms of what is our goal in terms why are we doing this do you need
extra income or do you just do you want to build up like an early retirement and
be able to live off of your say income um what’s your vision in kind of how do
you all need to work together to achieve that you know because I couldn’t do what
I’m doing you know if my husband wasn’t going to a regular job everyday you know
regular w2 job everyday you know he’s providing us with health insurance and
you know maybe by the end of the year I’ll be earning more than him but that
still wouldn’t like negate the need for him to actually still have that job and
so it’s something that we have to constantly talk about together talk
about the strategy are you still okay with this or you know most of the time
he’s like do more do more do and I’m like you realize how much time to stick
but you know if we or if we’re gonna do more quickly we need to spend more money
you know upfront so I would just say talking with the people in your life I
think maybe that’s you know something that could be really key because I think
it you know if I don’t have children but like if I have children this would be a
little overwhelming so if your mom out there or dad and you have kids and
you’re like I could never do this you can do it just you have to be really
structured and intentional and think about all the ways you’re wasting time
on a daily basis like cut facebook out cut even your morning coffee run like
cut that out make the coffee at home and spend that half an hour just in front of
the laptop yeah it’s all priorities yeah and all that was good life advice to not
just for Nick bicha hates me ya know I feel like I just had a therapy session
so that was really good yeah okay do you have any goals for your site over
let’s say six months 12 months where do you want the site to be aim high yeah I
want by the end of the year by the end of 2018 I want to double the amount of
content that I have on just this one site I’m also in the process of
launching a couple more feature in there different phases of development I don’t
like to ever be doing full-scale more than one at a time so I’ll be doing some
like test test batches of like 30 articles and then kind of leaving it for
six months that sort of thing so I wanna double my content and honestly by the
end of the year I really want to be making five figures a month off of just
this one website nice that’s my goal in terms of numbers and in terms of numbers
going forward for two years beyond that I mean I just want to continue to scale
at that sort of growth rate but I want to have three to four sites that are all
performing similarly and I mean I’ve already done like all the kgr research I
mean I’ll still do it right but like I have enough right now in my excel sheet
to kind of go forward for the next couple of years
awesome I know you say don’t do keyword research that much but I I like
I just always find it accidentally oh my god that fits on the kgr well that’s my
goal I really want I loved the concept you use of like five figure niche site
and and so that’s what I think in my mind every day like I’m literally
building a five figure niche site that will earn me five figures in month
hopefully so and I asked dad I live in high-cost New England you know so like
thinking in terms what is a full-time income you know for somebody where I
live versus where I grew up in Indiana it’s basically like double right you’re
like so I could probably get by on five thousand dollars in Indiana or six
thousand dollars but up here you need a little bit more right can totally relate
and I was gonna say I mean people don’t forget you have to pay taxes that’s like
35-ish forty percent or so so it sounds like a lot which it is it’s you know
fantastic but you do have to pay taxes and stuff it can go quickly yeah well
that is amazing and Ellen this has been enlightening thanks a lot thanks for
joining and sharing your story really appreciate it awesome thanks Doug you

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