House Capital Investment Committee 3/7/18


>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR URDAHL: I WILL CALL THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. COME TO ORDER; PLEASE. THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT. REPRESENTATIVE GUNTHER HAVE YOU REVIEWED THE MARCH 6 MINUTES?>>REPRESENTATIVE GUNTHER: ABSOLUTELY.>>CHAIR URDAHL: YOUR MOVE APPROVAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED; NAY. THE MINUTE PASS AGAIN.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR URDAHL: A COUPLE THINGS [INAUDIBLE] TODAY. FIRST OF ALL WE HAVE A LOT OF-SEVERAL SHADOWS IN THE AUDIENCE FROM FCC LA. THOSE WEARING RED JACKETS WITH THE EXCLUSION OF [INAUDIBLE] WITH THOSE WHO ARE HERE SHADOWING; PLEASE STAND.>>[INAUDIBILE / OFF MIC]>>CHAIR URDAHL: FAMILY CAREER LEADERS OF AMERICA. THANK YOU. THIS IS INFORMATIONAL HEARING.. [INAUDIBLE] IS CAN NO ACTION IS CAN BE TAKEN ON OUR BILLS TODAY. TECHNICALLY THEY ARE NOT EVEN OUR POSITION YET. THAT’S WAY WERE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION. BUT WE WILL-WE NEED TO GET MOVING ON THESE THINGS AND THAT’S WHY WE ARE DOING THE PRESENTATIONS. BASICALLY; TO-WE HIDING BILLS IN TO AREAS. GRANT PROGRAM FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITIES AND OVERVIEW OF THE THREE LAW-ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTERS. SO; WITH THAT THE FIRST BILL BEFORE US IS HOUSE FILE 2274 REPRESENTATIVE TONY ALBRIGHT WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE GENTLEMEN AND PLEASE; BEGIN.>>REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT: HOUSE FILE 2274 IS A BILL THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE GAPS IN OUR STATE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM OF CARE. WE ALL HAVE EXAMPLES FROM OUR FAMILIES FROM COMMITTEES OF THAT LEFT US WONDERING WITH THE STATE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THE MYRIAD OF NEEDS FOR PEOPLE FACING MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. JUST ONE OF THE MANY GAPS IN OUR SYSTEM IS A LACK OF APPROPRIATE [INAUDIBLE] FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH ACUTE NEEDS. ALSO; HOUSE FILE 2274 AS TO BRING ALL COUNTY PARTNERS TO THE TABLE. COUNTIES AS WELL AS THE STATE WITH REGARD TO MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY; NONPROFIT HOSPITALS AND PROVIDERS TO ASSESS THE NEEDS AND THEIR COMMUNITY ENVISION WHAT AN APPROPRIATE CRISIS FACILITY MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND WORK TOGETHER TO PUT TOGETHER NOT JUST THE BRICKS AND MORTAR BUT ALSO THE SUSTAINABLE SERVICE.I HAVE PROVIDED THE COMMITTEE IN YOUR PACKET WITH A AMENDMENT THAT IS THE RESULT OF WORK DONE DHS THE COUNTIES IN THE ADVOCACY COMMUNITY. MR. CHAIR AT THIS TIME SINCE IT IS AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING ONLY I’M UNAWARE WE CAN TAKE ACTION ON THE AMENDMENT.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT WE WILL NOT TAKE ACTION ON THE SPEAR. YOU CAN ASSUME IF IT WAS THERE IF YOU WISH.>>REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT: THANK YOU. THIS IS AS A RESULT OF ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS OF TWO OF THE INITIATIVE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO MAKE THE BEST EFFORTS TO PUT THE PATIENT IN THE CENTER OF THE CAREGIVER. I LEAVE IT AT THAT. THAT; I WILL ALSO INTRODUCE COMMISSIONER JIM MCDONOUGH FROM RAMSEY COUNTY WHO HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAS BEEN THE ON PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOWED AND SOME OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT HE SEES IS BENEFICIAL TO HIS COMMITTEES.>>CHAIR URDAHL: WELCOME. INTRODUCE YOURSELF OF THE COMMITTEE AND PROCEED; PLEASE.>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT. MY NAME IS JIM MCDONOUGH MC COUNTY COMMISSIONER I CURRENTLY CHAIR THE PORTRAIT ALSO I SIT ON THE REGION’S HOSPITAL BOARD AND CURRENTLY CHAIRING THE PORTRAIT I SAID ON THE ASSOCIATION OF MINNESOTA COUNTIES BOARD AND I’LL COME BACK TO WHY THOSE ARE IMPORTANT PIECES BECAUSE THEY’RE ALL PART OF THIS CONTINUUM AND PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP HERE ABOUT WHAT THIS INVESTS WILL BEING IN OUR COMMITTEES. I THINK THE FIRST MESSAGE I REALLY WANT AND REALLY CARRY TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS ALL ALONG THE CONTINUUM IN OUR RESPONSE TO MENTAL HEALTH THERE ARE HUGE GAPS AND ALL LONG THERE ARE INADEQUACIES ON HOW WE RESPOND. THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW WE ARE LIVING WITH HIS BEFORE WE DO HAVE A RESPONSE BECAUSE THERE’S THESE HUGE GAPS TO GET THESE BOTTLENECKS AND THEN IT CAUSES A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CONTINUUM. THEN COMMIT THAT IMPACT EVENTUALLY COMES BACK IN THE COMMUNITY. FOR THE MOST PART THE ONLY REAL FEAR THAT IMPACT IS IN OUR MOST EXPENSIVE BEDS IN A MOST INAPPROPRIATE BEDS; IN OUR JAILS; OUR SHELF WILL TELL YOU AT ANYTIME 40-50% OF HIS INMATES ARE THERE BECAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES COULD VERY EXPENSIVE BED. NO RESPECT NO DIGNITY FOR THE CONDITION OR WHAT [INAUDIBLE] TO END UP BEING IN THAT JAIL VERY INAPPROPRIATE RESPONSE BUT MANY TIMES THAT ARE ONLY RESPONSE AT THAT POINT IN TIME. MANY WILL END UP IN THE EMERGENCY BED ROOMS A T HOSPITALS [INAUDIBLE] IS OUR MAIN EAST METRO HOSPITAL THE PARTNER HAS INVESTED OVER MENTAL HEALTH BEDS BUT AT TIMES EVERY ONE OF THOSE BEDS MOST OF THE TIME EVERY ONE OF THOSE BEDS IS FULL. THEY STUCK UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM . AGAIN; ONCE THEY ARE READY TO MOVE OUT OF REGIONS THOUGH; WE DON’T HAVE A COMMUNITY BED FOR THEM THEY ARE STUCK THERE IN A VERY EXPENSIVE BED WITHOUT THE RIGHT LEVEL OF CARE. IF WE DO GET THEM INTO ANOKA ANOKA CAN’T GET THEM BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY ANOKA REGIONAL TREATMENT CENTER THE SAME ISSUE OCCURS. WE HAVE TO PAY A COST SHARE SO THERE’S A FINANCIAL PEACE TO THAT BUT THERE’S A COMMUNITY COST TO THAT BECAUSE WE GOT AN INDIVIDUAL AGAIN IN THE WRONG BED RECEIVING THE WRONG CARE BUT IT’S STACKING UP AND PREVENTING INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED THAT LEVEL OF CARE FROM BEING ABLE TO. THIS INVESTMENT HAS BEEN ADVANCED HERE WILL HELP US BUILD SUSPENDERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE BY REGION THAT WILL BE THERE FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION AND STABILIZATION IT WILL HELP US UNCLOG SOME OF THE BOTTLENECKS BUT MORE IMPORTANT; TO GET TO THE RIGHT RESPONSE TO WHEREVER THAT INDIVIDUAL IS IN THAT CRISIS THAT THEY MIGHT BE HAVING AS FAR AS A MENTAL HEALTH SITUATION THAT THERE OCCURRING TO TO ME; THAT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE. THIS IS NOT SOLVABLE FOR MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS IN OUR STATE BY ANY MEANS BUT WE WILL ON VARIOUS BOTH IN PROGRAMMING AND IN FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS WILL GO A LONG WAYS INTO HELPING FREE UP SOME OF THOSE BOTTLENECKS AND ALSO AGAIN PROVIDING THE RIGHT RESPONSE AT THE RIGHT TIME FOR OUR INDIVIDUALS. I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU I ALSO SAT ON THE GOVERNORS TASK FORCE. IT CAN BE JUST OVER A YEAR AGO. ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE THERE THE BIG THING THAT CAME OUT OF THAT IF ANY OF YOU HAD TIME TO EVEN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WAS THE CONTINUUM THE GAPS AND ALONG THE CONTINUUM WOULD EITHER HAVE NO FACILITIES OR NO PROGRAMMING BUT WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH IN ITS GRADING THESE BOTTLENECKS. SO THIS INVESTMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT TASK FORCE IN THE ALLEY SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT TASK FORCE AND HOW IT’S BEST FOR US TO START INVESTING PUBLIC DOLLARS IN LEVERAGING COMMUNITY SUPPORTS AND PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE A REAL QUICK MOMENT. I’VE GOT SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT WANT TO SHARE SOME OF THEIR STORIES HERE THROUGHOUT OUR STATE BUT AS COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE ASSOCIATION OF MINNESOTA COUNTIES I MENTIONED WERE UP TO WELL OVER 80 COUNTIES THAT PASSED BRISTOL RESOLUTIONS AND IT’S PRETTY RARE FOR US TO GET ALL 87 COUNTIES ALIGNED ON ANYONE ISSUE BUT I’M CONFIDENT IN THE NEAR FUTURE HERE WE WILL HAVE 87 RESOLUTIONS FROM 87 OF OUR COUNTIES YOUR COUNTIES IN THE STATE SUPPORTING THIS INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I WILL END WITH ALL SHARE WITH YOU WHEN INVESTMENT THAT WE MADE IN RAMSEY COUNTY THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY AWARE OF BUT IT’S REALLY THE CRITICAL WORKING WITH WASHINGTON AND DAKOTA COUNTY;; THREE COUNTIES WORKING WITH HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS AND INSURANCE COMPANIES;; WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WE MADE AN INVESTMENT ON UNIVERSITY AVENUE NOT TOO FAR HERE AND IT’S REALLY BASICALLY URGENT CARE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH. 24 HOURS A DAY THREE AND 65 THI S YEAR THEY CAN WALK INTO THE BUILDING AND WE COULD BE RESPONSIVE TO THEIR NEEDS WE MOVED TO SHUT DOWN OUR OLD DETOX ARE ALL BUILDING COULD BE BROUGHT DETOX UP THERE BECAUSE AS MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE MENTAL HEALTH AND CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY GO HAND AND HANDED SO MANY CASES. IT’S A MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE THE CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY RESPONSE BECAUSE SELF-MEDICATING OR VICE VERSA.BUT WE CO-LOCATED THOSE SERVICES BECAUSE THAT OCCUR SO MANY TIMES. IN THE LAST PIECE I WILL SHARE WITH YOU IS THE IMPACT OUR COMMUNITIES I TALKED WITH EMERGENCY ROOMS ARE HOSPITALS. I TALKED WHAT THE JAIL BEDS THE LAST SPONSOR IS REALLY THE MOST INHUMANE RESPONSE THAT HAPPENS EVERY SICKLE DAY IN OUR COMMUNITIES. SO MANY PEOPLE END UP HOMELESS ON OUR STREET BECAUSE THEY DON’T END UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM OR WE DON’T EVEN GET THEM INTO A JAILBAIT. THIS WINTER RAMSEY COUNTY OPENED UP 50 EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS FOR THE WINTER BECAUSE HOMELESS SHELTERS AR E JUST ABSOLUTELY AT THEIR PEAK AND AGAIN ALMOST ALWAYS THERE SOME TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH SITUATION THAT IS A PART OF THAT INDIVIDUAL STORY ON WHY THEY ENDED UP ON THE STREET. SO MR. CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR YOUR FOR TAKING THE TIME HERE TO HEAR REPRESENTATIVE’S ALBRIGHT BILL. THANK YOU ALLOW ME TO TEST LIKE>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT WE WILL DO IS ASK THE TESTIFIER TO REMAIN IF YOU WILL TAKE THEM AT THE END OF EACH GROUP. SO STICK AROUND HERE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.>>REPRESENTATI VE ALBRIGHT: MR. CHAIR I’VE THREE MORE TESTIFIERS ON BEHALF OF THIS INITIATIVE. NEXT WOULD BE MS. JULIE ELLIS WE WOULD HOPE>>CHAIR URDAHL: WE WOULD HOPE AROUND A MINUTE EACH SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG.>>REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT: IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU DEFINE A MINUTE BUT I’LL LEAVE THAT UP TO NOT TESTIFIERS.>>TESTIFIER: MY NAME IS JULIE ELLIS. I’M THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT DIVISION DIRECT OR FOR HUMAN SERVICE BUT IN MY CAPACITY I OVERSEE SERVICES TO ADULTS AND ADOLESCENTS WITH SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS THOSE IN NEED IN CIVIL COMMITMENT AND INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING SUBSTANCE ABUSE. HAVE YOU HEARD FROM REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT AND COMMISSIONER MCDONALD HOW THESE PROJECTS FIT INTO OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW IS THAT COMMUNITIES DON’T LOOK THE SAME AROUND THE STATE. SUPPORTS FOR THIS BONDING BILL ALLOWS COMMUNITIES TO TAILOR SERVICES TO THEIR SPECIFIC NEEDS. ALLOWING US TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE GAPS WITHIN THEIR OWN REGION. I’LL TAKE JUST A FEW MOMENTS; BRIEF MOMENTS; TO DESCRIBE TO YOU THE VISION FOR CENTRAL MINNESOTA AT REGIONS. THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS CENTER WILL ALLOW ACCESS INDIVIDUALS A WALK ON BASIC IT WILL NOT NEED AN APPOINTMENT. THEY CAN VISIT ON THEIR OWN OR FAMILY MEMBER MIGHT BRING THEM IN WHICH THE GREAT ALTERNATIVE TO CALLING LAW ENFORCEMENT WHICH OFTEN HAPPENS NOW. IF LAW ENFORCEMENT DOES GET THE CALL IT WILL HAVE A PLACE TO BRING PEOPLE TO BE ASSESSED RECEIVE THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF CARE. ABORTED EXPENSIVE COST OF JAIL; DETOX OR THE EMERGENCY ROOM. AT THE CENTER INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ASSESSED BY MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND PRACTITIONERS AS WELL AS CHEMICAL HEALTH STAFF. A DETERMINATION OF WHAT LEVEL OF CARE WILL BE MADE PEOPLE RECEIVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF CARE. RANGING FROM DETOX TO HOSPITALIZATION WERE IN SOM E CASES REFERRAL TO OUTPATIENT SERVICES AND DISCHARGED TO HOME THE CARE PLAN. A REGION IS A MEETING OF PLANNING FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR APPROXIMATELLY ONE YEAR. PARTNERS IN THIS COLLABORATION INCLUDE MULTIPLE COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES AGENCIES CENTER CARE HEALTH; CENTRAL MINNESOTA COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH CENTER; MULTIPLE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES; AND NAMI. WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE BONDING BILL WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE INDIVIDUALS EARLIER AND PROVIDE FOLLOW-UP CARE. THIS WILL PREVENT [INAUDIBLE] USES THE NEED FOR DETOX VISITS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT INVOLVEMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES BETTER CARE FOR PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TO IT.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.>>REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT: I HAVE LINDA KAREN SUPERVISOR FROM ST. LOUIS COUNTY WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE BRIEF REMARKS AS WELL.>>CHAIR URDAHL:>>TESTIFIER: MY NAME IS LINDA KAREN AND I SUPERVISED THE DON’T MENTAL HEALTH UNIT FOR THE LEWIS COUNTY ALSO CHAIR THE ADULT MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE REGIONAL INITIATIVE. THAT’S THE VISION OUT THERE>>REPRESENTATIVE REGION THREE. SO SIMILAR TO MY COLLEAGUE JULIE COME I SPEND MOST MY WORK DEDICATED TO PROMOTING BEST PRACTICES FOR SERVICE DELIVERY TO INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AS YOU HAVE HEARD THE NEED TO RUN A STATE OF GREAT ST. LOUIS COUNTY AND REGION THREE ARE UNMET NEEDS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE OF THE GOVERNOR’S MENTAL TASK FORCE. WE NEED TO START WITH A CONFERENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH CONTINUUM OF CARE WITH A CLEAR POINT OF ENTRY. WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE PARTNERS TO ASSESS THE NEEDS ARE REGION IS GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENVISION WHAT ARE REALLY ROBUST SYSTEM OF CARE MIGHT LOOK LIKE ONE; WHERE THERE ARE TREATMENT OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE EXPENSIVE MENTAL HEALTH CHEMICAL HEALTH SYSTEMS NOT JUST INCARCERATION OR HOSPITALIZATION. SO I BROUGHT A HANDOUT OF OUR TALKING POINTS WHICH REALLY INCLUDES PARTNERS BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT INSIDE ALL OF OUR PARTNERS WE’VE A PRETTY RICH DULUTH COMMUNITY THERE AND REGIONS LOTS OF PARTNERS. SO IT KIND OF SUMMARIZES THE SCOPE OF HOW WE PLAN AT THIS TIME TO ADDRESS THE GAP IN OUR COMMUNITY. SCOPE INCLUDES WORKING CLOSELY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT ADDRESSING THE BOTTLENECK AND FEBRUARY I HEAR THE BOTTLENECK WORD A LOT. OUR CURRENT SYSTEM HAVING A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM APPROACH DOING WITH POST CRISIS BOTH HOSPITALIZATION SUPPORTIVE HOUSING MOST IMPORTANTLY EMBRACING THE PRACTICE OF TREATING EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING HOLISTICALLY AND WITH DIGNITY WHETHER AN ADULT OR CHILD. SO I WANT TO JUST I APPRECIATE ABBREVIATED YOU ARE WHEN INVESTMENT YOU MADE A RAMSEY COUNTY WHEN INVESTMENT WE MADE IT SEAMLESS COUNTY WE EMBEDDED A CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER IN THE DULUTH [INAUDIBLE] AND THE REGION HAS EMBEDDED A SECOND ONE. NOW WE HAVE TWO MENTAL HEALTH LAW ENFORCEMENT COPS WORKING TOGETHER AND HOMELESS ARE RECENT OUT SPEEDY WORK BUILDING A MENTAL HEALTH UNIT [INAUDIBLE] WOULD LOVE AN AMAZING RESULT SO WE’VE ARTIE STARTED WORKING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AND GETTING READY FOR WHEN I COME NEXT. SO JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU.>>REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT: MR. CHAIR AND ONE FINAL PRESENTER AND THAT IS [INAUDIBLE] FROM ST. LUKE’S.>>TESTIFIER: MY NAME IS KAREN METZGER AND I MANAGED OUTPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES PRICING LOOKS HOSPITAL IN DULUTH MINNESOTA. AS YOU’VE HEARD FROM PREVIOUS TESTIMONY THERE’S HUGE GAPS IN OUR MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM. IN THE CURRENT CARE WE ARE DELIVERING TO FAMILY MEMBERS COUNTY RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR AREA. WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING IS NOT WORKING. WE NEED TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND WE KNOW THAT AND WE REALLY NEED TO WORK TO MEET INDIVIDUALS NEEDS AND WHERE THERE AT CURRENTLY. CURRENTLY; WE ARE PUTTING A BAND-AID ON PROBLEMS ABOUT FIXING THEM LONG TO THIS WHERE COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE IS SO VALUABLE WE’VE COME TOGETHER AS A MENTAL HEALTH CARE PARTNERS TO TRY TO DEVELOP THE COMMUNITY DRIVEN SOLUTIONS FOR IDENTIFIED GAPS IN OUR INDIVIDUAL CONTINUUM OF MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS CARE. OUR PARTNERSHIPS AS YOU CAN SEE INCLUDE LOCAL HOSPITALS COMMUNITY HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS; HUMAN SERVICES HOMELESS OUTREACH AND ADVOCACY; LAW ENFORCEMENT BOTH SHERIFF AND DULUTH PLACE; CITY COUNCIL; ST. LOUIS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS; OUR MAYOR’S OFFICE; AND OTHER MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS WITHIN OUR REGION AND ALSO MENTAL SPECIALTY COURT AND WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH NAMI BOTH AT MINNESOTA LEVEL AND WITH THE DULUTH GROUP AS WELL. TOGETHER WE’VE MAPPED OUR REGIONAL ADULT MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS CONTINUUM OF CARE TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR REGION IN ORDER TO STREAMLIN E THE ACCESS TO CARE SOME PEOPLE WHO NEED IT CAN RECEIVE IT WHEN THEY NEED IT THE MOST. WE ARE ASKING FOR STATE INVESTMENT IN THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM TO CONTINUE OUR VISION FOR PERSON CENTERED CRISIS CENTER THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR IMMEDIATE ASSESSMENT AND SUPPORT AND MUCH NEEDED ONGOING POST CRISIS FOLLOW-UP IS PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED WITH THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THEY NEED PROVIDE COMPLETE CONFERENCE OF COMMUNITY DISCHARGE PLANNING AND ENSURE THAT WE AGAIN ARE MEETING INDIVIDUAL NEEDS. OUR COLLABORATIVE HAS HELPED US WORK ON DEVELOPING KEY INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO SUPPORTING THE BUILDING BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN BOTH SUSTAINABLE IN ANY PROJECTS WE ARE ENVISIONING. HERE’S A PART OF THE PROJECT IS KEY AND IT’S A KEY PIECE OF OUR VISION THAT WILL ALLOW US TO FILL SOME OF THE GAPS IN OUR CARE AND SERVICE AND MAKE SURE WE ARE LEVERAGING THE CURRENT RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AT OUR REGION. THANK YOU FOR ALLOW ME TO TESTIFY THIS AFTERNOON.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. I WILL START WITH QUESTIONS . JUST I’LL BEGIN WITH A COUPLE HERE. FIRST OF ALL; REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT; I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT BILL. I THINK IT’S VERY TIMELY BILL AND THEREFORE; I’M WONDERING HAVE THE SITES BEEN DECIDED YET WITH A CRISIS CENTER WILL BE?>>REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT: I’M IN A PHONE A FRIEND ON THE I THINK THEY CAN INTRICATELY ARTICULATE THE PLANNING BETTER THAN I CAN. WANT TO TAKE UP? MS. ESTHER MCDONOUGH? MR. MCDONOUGH?>>TESTIFIER: MY NAME IS-F AND [INAUDIBLE] WHAT’S ENVISION IN THE BILL IS A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS YOUR REGIONS WOULD SUBMIT PROPOSALS WE HAVE SEVERAL REASONS THAT ARE PRETTY ADVANCE IN THEIR PLANNING PROCESS THAT YOU’VE HEARD FROM BUT AS OF NOW WE DON’T HAVE A DEFINED SITES. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THINK. WOULD YOU EXPECT THE BIDS WOULD COME FROM REGIONAL CENTERS OR WITH ANY CITY BE ELIGIBLE?>>TESTIFIER: WE EXPECT THEM TO COME FROM REGIONAL CENTERS. THAT’S KIND OF THE ENVISIONED INTENSE. NOW I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK OUR BILL LANGUAGE TO SEE HOW IT OUTLINES UP BUT WE ARE ENVISIONING COMMUNITY-BASED REGIONAL APPROACHES TO THIS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: WILL BE GEOGRAPHICALLY DISTURBED ACROSS THE STATE>>TESTIFIER: THAT IS THE INTENT; YES.>>CHAIR URDAHL: ONE OTHER QUESTION MAYBE IT’S FOR YOU REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT OR SOMEONE ELSE. ARE THERE ANY AGE LIMITS IN THIS? OUR ADOLESCENCE INCLUDED OR->>TESTIFIER: I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. AGAIN SOME OF THIS IS STILL BEING WORKED OUT IN THE PLANNING PROCESS BUT WITH THE REGENTS I TALKED TO THAT ARE PRETTY FAR ALONG WITH THEIR INTENDING ENVISIONING IS THAT ON AN OUTPATIENT BASIS WOULD REALLY BE LOOKING TO SERVE ALL AGES IN THE COMMUNITY WAS STILL TO BE WORKED OUT AND DISCUSSED HIS THE CRISIS STABILIZATION BED IN TERMS OF WHETHER YOUTH AND WHAT EACH YOUTH CAN BE CITED A FACILITY WITH ADULTS AND STILL SOMETHING THAT NEEDS GET WORKED OUT. THERE’S LICENSING IMPLICATIONS SO AGAIN ON AN OUTPATIENT BASIS WE ARE ENVISIONING AGAIN THE REGENTS LOOKING AT THIS WOULD ENVISION SERVING [INAUDIBLE]>>CHAIR URDAHL: I THINK THAT’S IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN>>REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN: I ASKED THE QUESTION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MY OFFICE AND WAS ASSURED THIS REALLY MIRRORS THE PRESENTATION WENT YESTERDAY. SO THIS GRANT PROGRAM IS TO HUMAN SERVICES. YESTERDAY’S WAS MINNESOTA HOUSING. SO THEY RECEIVED THE APPLICATIONS FROM-I GOT PRIMARILY COUNTIES SO THESE FACILITIES ARE PUBLICLY OWNED AND SO CAN BE GO BONDING AS OPPOSED TO THE HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE>>CHAIR URDAHL: THAT IS CORRECT>>REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN: ONE THING I WAS HAPPY TO SEE ON SEAMLESS COUNTY’S SHEET MR. CHAIR IS HOW YESTERDAY BILL AND THIS ONE GO HAND-IN-HAND. BECAUSE WHAT THEY DESCRIBED; YOURS IS SHORT-TERM AND I DON’T KNOW IF YOU DECIDE HOW LONG THAT IS; BUT YOU WOULD ONLY KEEP THEM SO LONG. BUT; IF THERE’S NOT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AT THAT POINT THEN YOU HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM THAT THE HOSPITAL STILL THAT IS YOU DISCHARGE THEM TO THE STREET AND SO THAT SECOND PIECE; WHICH ST. LOUIS COUNTY CALLS OUT THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT WE HEARD ABOUT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT WE HEARD ABOUT YESTERDAY AND THIS WILL HAND-IN-HAND TO HOPEFULLY PREVENT THOSE GAPS IF WE DO ENOUGH OF THEM. BUT IT’S THE QUANTITYY THAT’S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE. SPIELBERG I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER. THANK YOU.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE MILLER>>REPRESENTATIVE MILLER: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT THIS IS A DISCUSSION YOU’RE ALL HAVING. I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY ONE OF THE IMPORTANT PIECES WE NEED TO DE AL WITH WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH MOVING FORWARD SO VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I’M ACTUALLY ONE THAT BASED ON THE OTHER GRANTS OTHER PROPOSALS THAT I’VE SEEN I THINK YOU ACTUALLY THEY ARE TOO LITTLE I COULD TO SEE A HIGHER PRIORITY ON THIS ONE RATHER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. A VERY SUPPORTIVE UP WITH ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU EXPAND MUCH NEEDED CARE WE ARE TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS. WE DOING TO ADDRESS THE OPERATING EXPENSES? OTHER BILLS AND OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD HERE? OTHER PLANS? I KNOW SOME OF THIS IS INTEGRATED WITH COUNTIES ARE ALREADY DOING. BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ADDRESS THE OPERATING COSTS OF THIS MOVING FOR?>>CHAIR URDAHL: I THINK THAT’S PART OF THE REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT FEEL RIGHT THEY’LL BE PART OF THE COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS THAT EACH ENTITY WOULD SUBMIT FOR APPROVAL TO THE GRANT PROGRAM.>>REPRESENTATIVE MILLER: REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT; SO FUNNY MONEY HAS A TENDENCY TO GET USED AND GET EXPENDED IN THIS IS AN ONGOING EXPENSE YOU’RE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. TO ANTICIPATE THERE’S GONNA BE SOME BUDGETARY CONSIDERATIONS IN THE FUTURE TO ADDRESS THIS OR WE JUST GOING TO KIND OF KEEP BONDING FOR THIS? THIS IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM SO IF YOU HAVE A GRANT IT’S CAN HAVE A TERMINATION WHENEVER THAT MONEY GETS BENNETT SO ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS IN THE FUTURE ?>>CHAIR URDAHL: WE CAN BOND FOR MAINTENANCE SO –>>REPRESENTATIVE MILLER: ANOTHER FACILITY SOME TALK ABOUT OPERATIONS MR. CHAIR. THERE’S EXPENSES INVOLVED BEYONDTHE FACILITY ITSELF. SO WORKING ANTICIPATION FOR THE ONGOING EXPENSES THAT YOU ARE CAN PROVIDE>>TESTIFIER: I WILL GIVE YOU INITIAL ANSWER HERE AND MIGHT ASK MY COLLEAGUE HERE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS TO PROVIDE MORE IN-DEPTH DETAILS RUN THE REGIONAL APPROACHES. PART OF THE INTENT HERE IS TO BE LEVERAGING EXPECTING FUNDING STREAMS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES WITHIN OUR FACILITIES WHETHER THAT’S MA OR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DOLLARS AS A IN TERMS OF CANADA SPECIFIC SUSTAINABILITY PLANS I CERTAINLY BY MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY’RE ABLE TO EXPAND UPON THAT FOR THE REGIONS.>>TESTIFIER: YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.>>CHAIR URDAHL: IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AGAIN>>TESTIFIER: AARON METZGER WITH SEAMLESS HOSPITAL. THAT SOME OF THE CONVERSATION WE WERE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW THAT ARE PLANNING COMMITTEE.. BUILDING A BUILDING IS ALL GREAT BUT YOU HAVE TO SUSTAIN THESE PROGRAMS TO KEEP THEM GOING FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED THEM MOVING FORWARD. SO OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE LOOKING AT WHAT SERVICES ARE BILLABLE THROUGH MEDICAL ASSISTANCE; WHAT RINGS WE CAN OFFER AS FAR AS MEDICATION MANAGEMENT. SOME OF THE INTENSIVE COMMUNITY CASE MANAGEMENT; GROUP THERAPY. THOSE SORTS OF SERVICES THAT WE CAN ALSO OFFER AT THIS PLACE BUT THEN ALSO WORKING ON LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN RESTRUCTURE OUR MOBILE CRISIS TEAM TO BUILD MORE SUPPORT IN THERE AND THERE’S FUNDING FOR MOBILE CRISIS AND WHAT’S REALLY GOING TO COME DOWN THE LINE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH DHS BUT IT’S GOING HAVE TO BE CONVERSATION ABOUT REIMBURSEMENT. THERE’S GOT TO BE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE’RE GOING TO REALLY NEED TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND WE HAD SOME FAIRLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM THUS FAR. WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO KIND OF WORKING ON THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. IN OTHER WORDS; IF THIS WERE TO BE ESTABLISHED IN THIS CRISIS BILL I WOULD EXPECT TO BE COMING BACK TO THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT COMMITTEE FOR FUTURE FUNDING OPERATIONS TO BE FUNDED BY SOME OTHER MEANS?>>TESTIFIER: WE ARE EXPLORING THOSE OPTIONS WHETHER WE TALKED ABOUT SOME PHILANTHROPIC PUSH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BUT KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT MEETS THE STATE INVESTMENT AS WELL.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE MILLER TO ANSWER ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT PRIORITIZATION; I’VE SIGNED ONTO THIS BILL.>>[INAUDIBILE / OFF MIC]>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE BENNETT>>REPRESENTATIVE BENNETT: THE LINE OF TALK HERE IS KIND OF ANSWERED SOMEWHAT OF MY QUESTION BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR FIRST REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT; THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FOR. THIS IS HUGE; THE SYSTEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS BROKEN AND WE ALL KNOW THAT AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP AT STARTING TO FIX THAT. MY QUESTION IS; AND I KNOW WITH BONDING WE CAN BOND FOR THE PROGRAMMING; ONLY BRICK-AND-MORTAR; IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE PROJECT THAT WOULD COME FORTH WITH COMPETITIVE GRANTS WOULD INVOLVE TO BOTH BRICK-AND-MORTAR AND PROGRAMMING WITH THE BONDING WOULD ONLY FUND THE BRICK-AND-MORTAR PORTION. IS THAT CORRECT?>>CHAIR URDAHL: THAT IS CORRECT. REPRESENTATIVE TRENDS HELP>>REPRESENTATIVE SAUKE: SOME OTHER IDEAS OTHER MEMBERS COULD HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE STAGES WATCHING THIS DEVELOP AND ALSO COUNTY WHERE THEY HAVE A RELATIVELY ROBUST AND COMPLETE SET OF IDEAS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THIS SOUNDS LIKE THAT AMOUNT PEOPLE SAY’S BEEN A LITTLE BIT BUT INVESTING IN A KEY PLACE; IT DOES GENERATE BENEFITS SUCH THAT THE COST START TO BECOME MORE AVAILABLE RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO GO AWAY FROM YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. IN ROCHESTER AND UP IN DULUTH THEY’VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE SOCIAL WORKERS; COUNSELORS THAT SORT OF THING RIDING IN CARS WITH THE OFFICERS ARE GOING OUT ON THE CALL. SO A CALL COMES IN AND THERE’S A GUY OUT IN THE STREET CAN YOU HAVE A SOCIAL WORKER CAN IMMEDIATELY START ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE AT THE MOMENT WHICH MOST RESEARCHER WOULD SAY THE SOONER AND MORE DIRECTLY YOU ARE DOING WITH THE CRISIS PART OF IT FOR MENTAL ILLNESS THE LESS YOU GOING T O USE GOING UPSTREAM FROM THAT. ALSO; IF YOU JUST USE THE NORMAL I THINK IT WAS-EITHER STEP OUT AND I’M SORRY MR. ALBRIGHT BUT THE KEY IS ALSO RIGHT NOW WE ARE ABSORBING MONEY BY PUTTING THEM IN A HOSPITAL BED. THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A DAY. THEN WE ARE ALSO ABSORBING A CHUNK OF MONEY BY PUTTING THEM IN JAIL SO; THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A DAY. SO WHAT’S HAPPENING IS THERE’S AGGREGATE EXPENSE BY THE INADEQUACY OF NOT HAVING SOMETHING THAT CAN STEP UP AND ASSIST THESE PEOPLE AT THAT MOMENT OF CRISIS. SO THAT IN ITSELF I THINK GIVES US REASON TO TRY TO WORK ON THESE THEN ANOTHER AREA I THINK I SEE BENEFIT HERE THAT’S AVAILABLE IS FOR THAT BENEFIT TO ACCRUE OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING WITH THIS OTHER POLICE FORCES; OTHER HOSPITALS AND THAT SORT OF THING. WE WILL START TO SEE IDEAS IN HOW TO MAYBE MAXIMIZE THEIR SERVICES AND BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN ON THE WASTED MONEY THAT IS CAUSED WHEN PEOPLE ARE JUST PUT UP FOR BED FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE THE SYSTEM RUNS OUT. I THINK-I KNOW THE ROCHESTER POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD TESTIFY QUICKLY THAT THE FACT THAT THEY CAN DO THIS IS LOWERING THAT OVERHEAD COST IN THEIR SYSTEM RATHER THAN ALLOWING IT TO CONTINUE TO TRANSFER.>>CHAIR URDAHL: CAN WE WANDER UP; PLEASE?>>REPRESENTATIVE SAUKE: LEAVE IT AT THAT>>CHAIR URDAHL: WILL TWO MORE FOLKS ON THOSE. IF WE CAN BE CONCISE WITH OUR COMMENTS OF QUESTION THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED WE STILL HAVE FOUR MORE BILLS. REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: MR. CHAIR WAS THAT UP MESSAGE TO ME BECAUSE OF MY HISTORY?>>CHAIR URDAHL: THAT WAS TO REPRESENTATIVE LILLIE>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: I DO HAVE LONG ANSWERS . I’M NOT SURE WHO TO POSE THESE LONG QUESTIONS. TWO YEARS AGO [INAUDIBLE] BUT VERY BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSION AT THE TIME WAS A NUMBER OF BEDS WILL BE DEVOTED TO MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS IN THAT NEW HOSPITAL AND SO MY QUESTION IS WILL TRY TO BE CONCISE WITH IT; WITH THESE CRISIS CENTERS AND THE DISCUSSION THAT A CONTINUUM OF CARE WITH THE BEDS IN THOSE CRISIS CENTERS GIVE SOME RELIEF TO THE NEED FOR HOSPITAL BEDS BECAUSE AT MAPLE GROVE HOSPITAL JUST SCRATCHED THE SURFACE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE TOLD THE NEED WAS AT THE TIME. SO I DON’T KNOW WHO BEST TO ANSWER THAT RUSSIAN EFFORTS WERE DOWN MY QUESTION IT WAS COMMISSIONER MCDONOUGH BECAUSE HE HAD SO MANY DIFFERENT ROLES THAT MAY BE HEAT UP A PRETTY GOOD PICTURE OF THE OVERALL NEED AND WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE FOR EXAMPLE WHAT THE REGENTS WEEK WITH THE NEED TO BE FOR THE CRISIS CENTERS AND ALL THAT.>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION I WAS WERE AT A POINT WE COULD TELL YOU IF WE MADE THESE INVESTMENTS WE WOUULD NEED AS MANY BEDS AND JAILS AND HOSPITAL BEDS BUT THE BACKFLOW AND THE BOTTLENECK IS SO EXTREME THAT THESE BEDS ARE SO CRITICAL MOVING US FORWARD FOR THE RIGHT REASONS BUT RIGHT NOW; AND REGIONS THEY INVESTED 100 BEDS BUT I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY MAPLE GROVE ENDED UP DOING THE WE GOT 100 AND REGIONS. THEY ARE FULL EVERY SINGLE DAY. IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING THERE THREE DAYS; 40S TO GET INTO ONE OF THO SE BEDS WERE AT REGIONS WE CREATE A SPECIAL SPOT IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHICH IS BASICALLY EMERGENCY ROOM FOR FOLKS COMING IN WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. SO THIS IS BRING ME LATE TO THE SYSTEM AND ITS CAN PROVIDE THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITIES FOR A RESPONSE AND THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT BUT MY BEST GUESS RIGHT NOW; THOSE BEDS THEY FREE UP THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE MOVING IN. THE INVESTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS IS A GOOD START BUT WE HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO. WE ARE SO BEHIND IN MENTAL HEALTH INVESTMENTS COMPARED TO WHAT WE INVESTED IN THE PHYSICAL HEALTH OF OUR PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUALS WILL BE INJURED BUT WE SEGMENTED IT IN SUPPORT PHYSICAL HEALTH IN RESPONSE ON THAT HAS BEEN A LOT MORE COMPREHENSIVE OVER THE LAST 100 YEARS THAN THE INVESTMENT WE HAVE MADE IN THE MENTAL WELL-BEING OF INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THINK. REPRESENTATIVELILLIE>>REPRESENTATIVE LILLIE: REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT I THINGS WAS BILL S BILLS I’VE SEEN ALL YEAR AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD. I QUESTION I DID WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD HEAR JUST A BRIEF COMMENT FROM LIKE NAMI OR ANY OF THE GROUPS BUT I KNOW WHERE UNDER TIME PRESSURE BUT JUST BE INTERESTED TO HEAR A COUPLE SENTENCES OF HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT I’M SURE IT’S CAN BE FAVORABLE.>>REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT: WITH YOUR INDULGENCE TO ABERHOLDEN FROM NAMI>>CHAIR URDAHL: WELCOME. PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.>>TESTIFIER: TO ABERHOLDEN A SECOND DIRECTOR NAMI MINNESOTA AND ACTUALLY IN THE PAST WE’VE HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THIS BILL AND OTHERS BUILDS LIKE IT. BUT WITH THE AMENDMENTS WE’RE FEELING MUCH BETTER ABOUT IT IN A SUPPORTIVE THE PAST WHEN WE LOOKED AT WAS WAS CALLED CENTRAL RECEIVING CENTERS. DUPLICATING WHAT TEXAS AND FLORIDA DID WITH HER RANGE 49-50 FOR COMMITTEE MENTAL HEALTH. NO T EXACTLY [INAUDIBLE] TO LEARN HOW TO DO A BETTER. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE CENTRAL RECEIVING CENTERS WE MADE IT EASY FOR POLICE BUT NOT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. WITH THE LANGUAGE CHANGES AND THE AMENDMENTS WERE MAKING IT IS EASY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TO ACCESS MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT WHICH IS WHAT WE LAUNCH. AFTER PROVIDE TREATMENT [INAUDIBLE] MORE SUSTAINABLE THAN JUST GETTING REFERRED OUT TO SERVICES [INAUDIBLE] SO THE AMENDMENTS THAT OF BEEN MADE ARE GOOD. WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD WA Y FORWARD WILL A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. THEY DON’T NEED HOSPITAL LEVEL CARE BUT THEY NEED SOMETHING IN FOR THESE CRISIS HOMES THIS WILL BE THAT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE NEED. THANK YOU>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONCLUSION REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT FEEL RIGHT BREVITY IS MY BEST FRIEND.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS. THANK YOU. THE NEXT BILL BEFORE US IS HOUSE FILE 3004. REPRESENTATIVE DREW CHRISTIANSEN WELCOME LETTER FROM YOUR NATIONAL MEDIA TOUR.>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.>>CHAIR URDAHL: PERCY; PLEASE.>>TESTIFIER: REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTIANSEN THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS BILL HEARD AND IN THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE. HOUSE FILE 3004 IS A CRITICAL BILL. IN THE SAME VEIN AS THE LAST BILL IT’S BILL THAT ADDS MENTAL HEALTH BEDS IN FACILITIES IN HERE TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS ROBIN SELLECK NUMBER TWO VERY PORTLY WAS MY TITLE NEIGHBOR GROWING UP.>>TESTIFIER: THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY I JUST HAVE TO CLARIFY MY NAME IS PAM SO VAGUE. SORRY. THERE IS A ROBIN SELLECK ALSO THAT’S INVOLVED IN SCOTT COUNTY AS WELL BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. A MEASURE THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR SC OTT COUNTY>>CHAIR URDAHL: DID YOU KNOW HIM GROWING UP?>>TESTIFIER: YES; I DID YOU RELIVE KIND OF ACROSS THE STREET. IT HAS BEEN SOME YEARS. HE WAS ABOUT 10 WHEN I LEFT REPRESENTATIVE>>REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTENSEN: ON BATTING 650 6 2/3 WAY.>>CHAIR URDAHL: RIGHT PROCEED>>TESTIFIER: I’M HERE TODAY SUPPORT HOUSE FILE 3034 SEEKING 1.4 MILLION IN STATE FUNDING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 60 BED MENTAL FACILITY AT SCOTT COUNTY. THE STATE FUNDS WOULD ACTUALLY MATCH COUNTY NONPROFIT FUNDS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PROPOSE $2.8 MILLION FACILITY. THE PLAN 15 BED PROGRAM WOULD INCLUDE BOTH A SHORT-TERM CRISIS RESIDENTIAL BEDS WHICH YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EARLIER AND LONGER-TERM INCENTIVES RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT SERVICESS. THE HOPE FOR THIS BONDING REQUEST IS TO FILL A GAP IN THE CONTINUUM A MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR SCOTT COUNTY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. SCOTT COUNTY IS SEEN A 90% INCREASE OF UTILIZATION OF SHORT-TERM CRISIS BEDS FROM 2012-2016. THE EXTREME SHORTAGE OF BEDS FOR PATIENTS HAS RESULTED IN SOME PEOPLE SITTING IN EMERGENCY ROOMS;; FOR LONG HOURS OR DAYS AS THEY WAIT FOR AN APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT. DUE TO THE SHORTAGE OF NEARBY SERVICES PATIENTS [INAUDIBLE] LONG DISTANCE SOMETIMES THE ONLY BEDS AND FACILITIES AS FAR AS WAY AS CARGO WORK TO LOOK AT THIS RESULTS IN MOVING PATIENTS FROM THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THEIR SUPPORT NETWORK. PATIENTS BEING TREATED AT ANOKA CAN ALSO FIND THEMSELVES WITHOUT AN APPROPRIATE FACILITY WHEN THEY NO LONGER MEET THE HOSPITAL LEVEL OF CARE. OFTEN THESE PATIENTS WOULD STILL BENEFIT FROM ADDITIONAL TREATMENT AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENTS. SCOTT COUNTY AND SIMON APPERSON INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS REQUIRED IN RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT SERVICES FROM 2012–2016 AND WE LACK ANY OF THOSE SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY’S. A FACILITY SUCH AS THE ONE PROPOSED IN SCOTT COUNTY WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE TIMELY APPROPRIATE AND COST-EFFECTIVE SERVICES FOR THE PATIENTS. SCOTT COUNTY IS BEEN WORKING WITH CHILDREN INCORPORATE PRIVATE MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS SINCE 2016 AROUND THIS POTENTIAL THE MOMENT IN THE REGION. THE FACILITY PROVIDE INTERMEDIATE CARE SETTING WITH CAPACITY TO SUPPORT THOSE LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY WHO NEED HELP TO STABILIZE THEIR [INAUDIBLE] AND ADJUST IMMEDIATE NEEDS WITHOUT HOSPITAL CARE. THE PROGRAM WOULD ALSO OFFER TREATMENT AND SUPPORT FOR THOSE TRANSITIONING FOR POSSIBLE LEVEL OF CARE. WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF NEIGHBORING COUNTIES FROM OUR LOCAL HOSPITALS LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH ADVISOR AND PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. THE BARRIER TO THE DEVELOPMENT AT THIS MUCH-NEEDED [INAUDIBLE] HAS BEEN THE INITIAL [INAUDIBLE] COST. WE HOPE YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE SUPPORT OF HOUSE FILE 3004 AND IS FUNNY AND SIGNIFICANT GAP IN THE CONJOINED MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR SCOTT COUNTY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.>>REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTENSEN: MR. CHAIR WE ALSO HAVE THE MAYOR OF SAVAGE JAN WILLIAMS TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTIANSEN. THE MAYOR.>>TESTIFIER: I AM–MOST OF THE SCOTT COUNTY NAMI OF FUTURE AND I’M THE MAYOR OF SALVAGE>>REPRESENTATIVE URDAHL: WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE>>TESTIFIER: I AM HERE THANK YOU TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL MY FAMILY STORY. A 51-YEAR-OLD SON WAS WITH A SERIOUS AND PERSISTENT MENTAL ILLNESS. ALSO CALLED A BIOLOGICAL BRAIN DISEASE. STATISTICS SHOW THAT ONE IN FIVE PEOPLE THERE WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS. WE HAVE THREE SONS. OUR MIDDLE SON INTELLIGENT; OUTSTANDING ATHLETE IN HOCKEY AND SOCCER AND AVID HUNTER AND FISHERMAN LOVING KIND NONVIOLENT NEVER BEEN IN JAIL BUT HE LIVES WITH US. IF HE DIDN’T I FIGURE WE BE HOMELESS. HIS GOAL IS TO TAKE CARE OF US. IN HIS MID-20S HE CAME HOME FROM LIVING IN GEORGIA AND WAS EVIDENT THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG . HE THOUGHT OR PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE. HE WAS HEARING VOICES. YOU WOULD NOT LEAVE THE HOUSE. WE KNEW HE WAS NOT FEELING RIGHT AND IT WAS COMMON FOR THOSE LIVING WITH SUCH EXPERIENCES TO USE ALCOHOL OR STREET DRUGS TO SELF MEDICATE. WE HAD NO EXPERIENCE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND WERE RELIEVED TO LEARN ABOUT COUNTY SERVICES. PSYCHIATRIST IN THE COUNTY IN A CASE MANAGER CAME TO THE HOUSE AND DIAGNOSED HIM WITH PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA. FINALLY; AFTER WE TOOK HIM TO ST. FRANCIS HOSPITAL IN SHAKOPEE THE PROTOCOL WAS TO CALL THE SCOTT COVER CRISIS TEAMS WE WAITED FOR HOURS FOR THEM TO COME WHILE HE WAS HOUSED IN WHAT LOOKED LIKE A CELL IS EASY AS HE WAS HEARING VOICES. AFTER THEY ARRIVED AND DID AN ASSESSMENT HE WAS STRAPPED TO A GURNEY IN A PSYCHIATRIC PSYCHOTIC STATE AND TRANSFERRED TO BRAINERD WHERE THERE WAS AN AVAILABLE BED. A LONG JOURNEY BEGAN. ST. PETER; ANOKA; CEDAR RIVERSIDE; NORTH MEMORIAL; ST. JOE’S; NEW HOME; TWO COMMITMENTS; A TRANSITION HOME IN MANKATO; ANOTHER IN DULUTH AND [INAUDIBLE] WITH ALL OF THAT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT NO ONE BROUGHT THE HOT DISH. A WONDERFUL COUNSELOR HELP MY HUSBAND AND ME TO GRIEVE THE LOSS OF THE EXPECTATION THAT WE THOUGHT WERE IN HIS FUTURE AND TO ACCEPT HIM AS HE WAS. HE LED US TO NAMI IN THERE; THAT HELP WITH THAT HELP WE LEARNED WE NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES TO BE OF HELP TO HIM. THROUGH ALL OF THIS OUR SON IS A GREAT SON WHO HAS MUCH TO TEACH US YES; HE IS NOT LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND HE’S DISCOURAGED WHEN HE LOSES HIS EFFICACY. I WANT TO SHARE A STORY ABOUT HIS 50TH BIRTHDAY PARTY. HE PLANS AND THEN YOU SLOPPY JOE’S THAT HE PREPARED THAT OPINION AND SAT ON SENT OUT THE INVITATIONS HE WOULD EVER CATERER. IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTED ANYTHING STRONGER IT WAS BRING YOUR OWN BOTTLE. AFTER ALL; HE IS PROUD OF HIS 12 YEARS OF SOBRIETY. HIS INVITATION LIST WAS IMPRESSIVE THAT HE ONLY INVITED PEOPLE WOULD BE NICE TO HIM.. [INAUDIBLE] WHO HAVE BEEN NICE TO THEM AND SENT HIM THE ONLY CARD THAT HE RECEIVED WHEN HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. ONE OF SEVERAL UNCLES HE INVITED; SEVERAL THREE;; ONLY THREE OF US MANY COUSINS; DISTANT RELATIVE WHO TALKS TO THEM; HIS GODMOTHER BECAUSE SHE ALWAYS REMEMBERS HIS EARTH DAY AND HIS BROTHER; SISTER-IN-LAW AND TWO NIECES LOVE HIM UNCONDITIONALLY. THIS IS AN INTERESTING MESSAGE FOR ALL OF US. ONLY INVITE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN NICE TO THEM. MOST PEOPLE DON’T KNOW WHAT TO SAY OR DO UNTIL THEY DO NOTHING. THENTHERE IS STIGMA. THAT’S A WHOLE OTHER TOPIC. I VISIT; THIS PROPOSAL WOULD PROVIDE CRISIS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT’S NOT AVAILABLE. OBVIOUSLY THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM IS BROKEN. BUT WE WILL NEVER GET-WE THINK YOU FOR THE TIME.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE FRANKE>>REPRESENTATIVE FRANKE: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTIANSEN FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I GUESS MY QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR THE FIRST TESTIFIER . MY CONCERN IS IS A POSSIBLY SEEMS LIKE TOO SMALL OF A FACILITY; 16 BEDS. I’M NOT SURE OF THE NEED BUT T HEN THAT WOULD BE TO THE SECOND QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOLLOWING THAT UP WOULD BE THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED LENGTH OF STAY AND HOW WOULD YOU TRANSITION TO TRY A PROCESS TO GET THEM TO MORE STABLE CARE IF THIS IS JUST A TEMPORARY STATE FACILITY?>>TESTIFIER: I’LL DO MY BEST TO TRY TO ANSWER A QUESTION. OFTENTIMES 16 DAYS [INAUDIBLE] WE RUN INTO FEDERAL ISSUES FOR FACILITIES MORE THAN 60 DAYS. THEY DO SOME WAS CALLED INSTITUTES FOR MENTAL DISEASE AND WE HAVE ISSUES WITH MEDICAID FUNDING SO OFTENTIMES WE ARE LOOKING AT FACILITIES LESS THAN 60 DAYS. THE FACILITY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING WOULD BE FOR UP TO 90 DAYS OF TREATMENT AND THEN WE WOULD REALLY HOPE WE WOULD HAVE CASE MANAGERS WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THERE FOR LONG-TERM OR SUPPORTIVE TYPE HOUSING. I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED ANY PART OF THAT QUESTION.>>REPRESENTATIVE FRANKE: THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. NO. I UNDERSTAND BETTER NOW. I GUESS I WOULD REITERATE DRIVING MAYBE AT THIS POINT IS POSSIBLY TOO SMALL OF A FACILITY FOR YOUR NEEDS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE HOUSMAN HAUSMAN>>REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN: OUT OF THE PREVIOUS GROUP SET IT BUT THERE’S ALSO LIMITED TO 16 BEDS PER FACILITY FOR PRECISELY THE TWO REASONS THAT S HE GAVE. BIGGER THAN THAT COMPLICATES THINGS FOR A NUMBER SO THE PREVIOUS BILL WAS THE SAME SIZE OF 16 BEDS BUT THERE’S A PRACTICAL REASON FOR THAT LIMIT.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE DEHN>>REPRESENTATIVE DEHN: REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTIANSEN; SO IN ADDITION TO THE GRANT PROGRAM BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT YOU PUT FORWARD HERE IS ONLY THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FALL WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE LAST PRESENTER. SOME CURIOUS; ARE WE KIND OF DOING ONE THAT’S NOT SPECIFIC AT THIS TIME BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT SO YOU’RE MOVING FORWARD IT IN A SEPARATE WAY.?>>REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTENSEN: THERE’S ON THEIR SIMILARITIES WITH THE LAST BILL. THERE ARE I BELIEVE MS. SO THEY CAN GO A LITTLE BIT INTO THE DETAILS. I BELIEVE THE LAST BILL HAD THE SHORT TERM AND WOULD HOUSE BEDS FOR LITTLE LONGER-TERM TO THE 90 DAYS. IN ADDITION THIS PROJECT IS THAT IS ANOTHER DIFFERENCE THIS ONE IS READY TO GO. FEATURED ALL THINGS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS HOUSE FILE 3155. REPRESENTATIVE SMITH WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE.>>REPRESENTATIVE SMITH: HOUSE FILE 3150 IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE EXPANSION OF A TRAINING FACILITY IN THE NORTHWEST SUBURB THAT ENCOMPASSES 19 AGENCIES INCLUDING THE SECRET SERVICE THE FBI AND 17 CITIES AND COUNTIES. I HAVE MY MAYOR AND CHIEF OF POLICE WITH ME MR. CHAIR I LIKE TO HAVE THEM OFFER SOME TESTIMONY TO THIS BILL.>>CHAIR URDAHL: OKAY. PROCEED>>TESTIFIER: MARCUS STEFANSSON MAYOR OF MAPLE GROVE PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS NORTH METRO RANGE BILL. NORTH METRO RANGE WAS ESTABLISHED THAT IN ABOUT 1992 WITH TWO AGENCIES. SINCE THAT TIME IS EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THE 20 AGENCIES INCLUDING THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT REPRESENTS SMITH MANAGEMENT THIS IS ONLY HOUSES TRAINS A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE EXPENSE INCLUDING THE FBI; DEA; US MARSHALL US SECRET SERVICE; FLIGHT MARSHALS; THE STATE PATROL HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCAL COMMITTEE POLICE DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS NE W HOPE; CHAMPLIN; BROOKLYN PARK; ROGERS; AND OTHER COMMITTEES IN THE NORTHWEST SUBURBS. IT’S TRULY A REGIONAL FACILITY WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND THEIR DEMANDS FOR TRAINING UNFORTUNATELY WE REACH OUR CAPACITY AND HAD TO TURN AWAY OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE LOOKING TO USE THE FACILITY THAT IS THE REASON WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY TO LOOK FOR ESSENTIALLY MATCHING FUNDS TO EXPAND OUR FACILITY SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE AND PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY FOR THEIR TRAINING.. THAT INCLUDES BOTH RANGE ACTIVITIES AND OTHER SPECIALIZED TRAINING ACTIVITIES SO THEY ARE TRAINING HAVING TO DO WITH SITUATIONS THEY ENCOUNTER ON A DAILY BASIS AND KNOW HOW TO REACT TO THEM. AND HANDLE THEM IN OUR COMMUNITIES AS THEY ARE PROVIDING THEIR SERVICES TO BOTH COMMITTEES. I WILL TURN IT OVER OUR CHIEF; CHIEF WARNER THE CLERK WILL READ THE JOURNAL OF THE PRECEDING DAY. THANK YOU MR. MAY.>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO MY NAME IS ERIC WARNER CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF MAPLE GROVE. JUST TO BUILD ON THE COMMENTS THAT THE MAYOR SAID; WE HAVE RUN A VERY SUCCESSFUL TRAINING FACILITY FOR 25 YEARS WHICH WE THINK IS A MODEL FOR REGIONAL FACILITY. THE REQUESTED FUNDING PROVIDES FOR THE NEEDED EXPANSION OF METRO RANGE NOT ONLY TO INCREASE THE DEMAND FOR THE T RAINING SPACE ALSO TO MODERNIZE THE TRAINING CAPABILITIES FOR MORE REALISTIC SCENARIO-BASED TRAINING ENVIRONMENT. WE ALSO WANT TO ALLOW FOR REDUNDANCY OF OUR FACILITY OPERATIONS. WITH SO MANY ENTITIES RELYING ON US WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. ALSO; PERSONAL YOU LESSEN THE FACILITY IF IT WERE TO BE EXPANDED WERE TRYING TO DO RETURN CANOES WERE THE HIGHEST LEVEL TRAINING TO MEET THE CHALLENGES AND THE THREATS THEY FACE IN THE 21ST-CENTURY ENVIRONMENT. I THINK IT’S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE NORTH METRO RANGE REGIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITY CURRENTLY MEETS FOUR OF THE FIVE CRITERIA FOR PROVIDED IN TO STATE LEVEL REPORTS FOR EVALUATING FACILITY SITING OWNERSHIP AND OPERATION FOR WHEN CONSIDERING CAPITAL REQUEST ONE REMAINING CRITERIA IS NOT APPLICABLE BECAUSE THAT DEALS WITH GLOBAL TYPE TRAINING CAPABILITIES. SO FINALLY; WE KNOW THAT OUR FACILITY APPROVE MODELS AND PROVIDE HIGH-QUALITY PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING ALSO IN A COST-EFFICIENT MANNER. IT’S WORTHY OF INVESTMENT TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THIS LEVEL OF TRAINING TO THE PERSONNEL IN THE REGION THAT KEEPS THE COMMITTEE SAFE. NOT ONLY IS IT FOR ALL THE PARTNERS OF THE MAYORS SPOKE OF BUT IT ALLOWS ALL THESE PARTNERS TO INTERACT TO DEVELOP STRONG RELATIONSHIPS. WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER AND I BELIEVE IT ALSO BUILDS ON READINESS TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER CHARGES WERE THREATS WE FACE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANKS. CHIEF WARNER; DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TRAININGS FACILITIES THERE ARE IN THE STATE?>>TESTIFIER: I KNOW THERE’S A NUMBER THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHEN I TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR FACILITY IS WE ARE THE ONLY ONE IN OUR AREA AND WE ARE AT CAPACITY AS WELL AS ARE THE OTHERS IN OUR AREA>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: I’VE A QUESTION DID A FEW YEARS AGO WE BUILT A TRAINING FACILITY IN BROOKLYN PARK AND ITS CO-LOCATED ON THE HENNEPIN TECHNICAL COLLEGE CAMPUS AND HOW DOES THE MISSION THE ONE THAT YOU ARE OPERATING MESH WITH THE ONE IN BROOKLYN PARK? THIS A FOLLOW-UP TO HIS QUESTION AS TO HOW MANY THERE ARE IN THE AREA AND I THINK WE SPENT SOMETHING LIKE 12-60;000;004 THAT FACILITY THAT’S IN BROOKLYN PARK BUT I DON’T KNOW IF THE MISSION ARE QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE MISSION OF YOUR TRAINING FACILITY?>>TESTIFIER: THAT FACILITY IS FOCUSED ON THE POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION IN REGARD TO LAW-ENFORCEMENT OURS IS FOCUSED ON PROVIDING AN ENVIRONMENT SPECIFICALLY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL BETTER IN THE FIELD AS WE SPEAK. SO THERE’S MORE EDUCATION AND THEY DON’T HAVE THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE.>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: SO WELL I GUESS WHEN YOU SAY IN THE FIELD; IT’S MORE A CONTINUING EDUCATION TYPE PROGRAM WHERE THE OTHER IS PREPARING AN OFFICERS TO GO INTO THE FIELD. IS THAT WHAT I’M HEARING?>>TESTIFIER: CORRECT. OURS IS TO PROVIDE THAT BASELEVEL TRAINING THAT WE NEED FOR EXAMPLE AT THE POST BOARD REQUIREMENTS AND ENHANCING THAT FROM A REALISTIC ENVIRONMENT NOT ONLY WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE FIELD BUT AS THINGS ARE EMERGING SUCH AS CRISIS INTERVENTION TYPE TRAINING INTEGRATING THAT DE-ESCALATION OR [INAUDIBLE] MANAGEMENT TYPE THREATS WE WOULD RECEIVE TRAINING BASED ON THAT.>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: JUST TRY TO SEE HOW THE TWO FACILITIES INTERACT BECAUSE IT IS) IT’S GOT A DIFFERENT MISSION ALASKA DIFFERENT QUESTION. THANK YOU.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE UGLEM>>REPRESENTATIVE UGLEM: MY QUESTION IS FOR MAYOR STEFANSSON; YOUR HONOR. MAPLE GROVE BUILT THIS IN THE BEGINNING AND I KIND OF REMEMBER THAT. YOU FINANCED IT THROUGH THE CITY AND WITH YOUR OWN FUNDING AND THINGS. IT WAS ESSENTIALLY A POLICE RANGE AT THAT TIME; SARAH.>>TESTIFIER: WE ORIGINALLY BUILT IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT. TWO AGENCIES THAT ESSENTIALLY USE THE FACILITY THROUGHOUT THE 25 YEARS. SO A FEW YEARS AGO WE HAD A FIRE AND THE FACILITY WAS REBUILT AT THE TIME AND SINCE THAT TIME ESSENTIALLY MOST OF THESE AGENCIES COME TO OUR FACILITY BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE A SIMILAR TRAINING FACILITIES IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM AND THAT’S HOW WE ENDED UP WITH 20 DIFFERENT AGENCIES. AT OUR LOCATION.>>REPRESENTATIVE UGLEM: MR. MAYOR; YES; IN FACT OUR CITY OF CHAMPLIN AND SURROUNDING CITIES TRAINED THEIR WITH FIREARMS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME KIND OF A CHIEF MAYBE YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. HOW MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE OR PERSONNELUSE THIS FACILITY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? IT HAS TO BE HUGE.>>TESTIFIER: THE FORMING AGENCIES USE MAPLE GROVE [INAUDIBLE] IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THAT’S AT LEAST ABOUT 500-600 PERSONNEL ARE USING IT. BEFORE YOU BUILD AND ALL THE OTHER PARTNERS IN THE POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION ORGANIZATION. SO THERE’S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE USING IT.>>REPRESENTATIVE UGLEM: MY POINT IS IT’S A VERY VERY IMPORTANT REGIONAL FACILITY FOR ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE NORTH METRO AND I KNOW THAT IT’S PACKED. I MEAN IT’S LITERALLY BURSTING AT THE SEAMS AND THAT’S WHAT MY CUPS TELL ME; TOO. SO IT PROVIDES A VERY VERY NECESSARY FACILITY FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT THANK YOU.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE KNOBLACH REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: WHICH WE KNOW I GUESS IN TERMS OF HOW MANY ARE NEEDED; WHAT WOULD BE THE SIZE OF THE POPULATION BASE THAT YOU SERVE. IS IT TOO FOR THE 3 BILLION PERSON METRO AREA OR DO WE KNOW?>>TESTIFIER: I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHO THE AGENCIES ARE INVOLVED WE KNOW THAT FOR THE NORTH METRO RANGE ESSENTIALLY WE ARE SERVING CERTAINLY WELL IN EXCESS OF A COURT OF THE POPULATION [INAUDIBLE] TALKED ABOUT THE ENTIRE HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF’S ABOUT OF THE OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES IN VARIOUS LOCAL AGENCIES IN THE NORTH METRO AREA IT’S A VERY SIGNIFICANT RANGE WHY WE NEED THIS RANGE TO BE EXPANDED IS BECAUSE ADDITIONAL JOINING AGENCIES IN THE NORTH METRO AREA HAVE IN SEEKING TO USE THIS FACILITY AND IF WE CAN EXPAND THAT WE KNOW WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT DON’T EXIST FOR THEM AND THEIR COMMITTEES. I THINK THAT’S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS EXISTING SMALL RANGES AND SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES IS THAT THEY REALLY NOT STATE-OF-THE-ART AND WE A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY EVENTUALLY EVERYTHING IS RECYCLED EVERYTHING IS CAUGHT EVERYTHING IS DONE. S O THE PASSING OPERATION MY THING IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WITH THE AGENCY RULE HE IN THE BEST LEVEL OF TRAINING. THEY WERE LOOKING FOR TO THE EXPANSION AS WELL.>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: MY ONLY CONCERN IS IT SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING THERE’S A HIGH-GRADE HIGH-QUALITY LARGE FACILITY AND HOPEFULLY WE DON’T FALL INTO THIS TRAP WHILE WE ARE BUILDING>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE GROSSELL>>REPRESENTATIVE GROSSELL: FOR THE CHIEF; THIS FACILITY YOU SAID IT OFFERS MORE ADVANCED TRAINING AS WELL COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE FIRMS TRAINING IS ONE THING. YOU SAID THIS MORE REALISTIC SCENARIOS THAT YOU GO THROUGH?>>TESTIFIER: CURRENTLY; THE BILL FIRING INTO THAT DEALS WITH THE FIREARMS ASPECT OF IT. MOST OF THE TRAINING ROOM OFF TO THE SIDE THAT HAS THE ESSENTIALLY THE TTRAINING ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU CAN RUN AND ADJUST SCENARIOS AS THEY GO. THEN WE HAVE A LARGE TRAINING ROOM WHERE WE CAN BRING IN THE CLASSROOM ASPECT OF IT AND WHAT WE’RE FINDING IS THAT WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO DO THE REALISTIC ASPECT OF IT YOU’RE SETTING THINGS UP ON THE RANGE AND TRYING TO MAKE TWO FOR EXAMPLE A ROOM SEARCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND YOU ARE DEALING WITH SOMEWHAT MOVABLE BUT AD HHOC MATERIALS. SO THIS FACILITY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING WILL TAKE WHAT WE THINK IS A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY TO BRING THAT MODERN TECHNOLOGY [INAUDIBLE] OPERATING FOR 25 YEARS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE GROSSELL>>REPRESENTATIVE GROSSELL: RESUME ASKING I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT LAW-ENFORCEMENT FORMAL LAW-ENFORCEMENT MICE OF I KNOW IMPORTANT THAT TRAINING IS TO SERVE THE COMMITTEES BETTER. WE ARE FORTUNATE FIRST FEDERAL TASK FORCE TO GET SO WENT [INAUDIBLE] FOR OFFICER SURVIVAL TRINKET IS A SOMETHING YOU TRY TO BUILD MORE INTO AS FAR AS ADDINGMORE TO YOUR TRAINING SYSTEM FOR THE REGIONAL DEPARTMENT AND AGAIN WITH THAT; IS IT SOMETHING THAT OUT STATE OFFICERS COULD COME TO YOUR FACILITY AS WELL? I GUESS I DON’T KNOW IF IT REACHES [INAUDIBLE] FOR YOU?>>TESTIFIER: THE PROPOSE BILL WE WOULD LIKE TO DO INCLUDES ADDITIONAL RAIN SPACE. ALSO IT INCLUDES A LARGE PORTION AMMUNITION LOCATION NOW YOU’RE GETTING INTO THE TRAINING YOU SPOKE TO HIM A GRADUATE OF FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY’S 11 TO QUANTICO. I KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING. I THINK THE FACILITY THAT’S A FANTASTIC FACILITY OUT THERE. I THINK THAT’S WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE REGIONAL FACILITY IS HOW CAN WE MAKE THESE TRAINING ENVIRONMENTS AS REAL AS POSSIBLE THAT WE HAVE OUR TACTICS ARE FIREARMS FOR BRINGING THE CONCEPTS OF DE-ESCALATION BRINGING IN THE MENTAL TRAINING AND BRINGING THAT ALL INTO A BB WHERE WE HAVE REAL SCENARIOS AND THAT’S TO PREPARE ALL OF [INAUDIBLE] BASED ON REAL-LIFE SITUATIONS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE DEHN>>REPRESENTATIVE DEHN: I’M NOT SO SURE IF IT’S YOU MR. MAYOR OR CHEAP OR EVEN YOU REPRESENTATIVE SMITH. I’M LOOKING AT THESE 20 AGENCIES I KNOW THAT MANY OF THEM SOME OF THEM ARE LOCAL CITIES OR COUNTIES AND FOLKS LIKE THAT . THEN WHEN I SEE FBI; DDA; US SECRET SERVICE; TODAY PARTICIPATE IN THE CREATION ? DO THEY PAY A FEE? I’M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WITH THE BUSINESS MODEL IS OF HOW THIS ZODIAC SHE WORKS. IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME THAT WOULD BE GREAT.>>TESTIFIER: THERE’S A COUPLE OF ARRANGEMENTS WITHIN THE BUSINESS MODEL. THROUGH THE FEES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE USER FEE FOR PAIN FOR OPERATIONAL COSTS WE HAVE WHAT’S CALLED MEMBERS SO WE HAVE JOINT POWER AGREEMENTS WITH CERTAIN MEMBERS AND WE ALSO SERVICE AGREEMENT SO IT’S BASED ON AN HOURLY FEE [INAUDIBLE] WHAT THEY BELIEVEWITH THEIR HOURLY USE WOULD BE AT THE FACILITY. FOR EXAMPLE; WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT WITHOUT ORGANIZATION AND THAT ALLOWS TO LOCK THE TIME DOWN. SO; IN GENERAL; A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT AND SERVICE AGREEMENTS. IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC USE WE DO GET SOME REVENUE TO PUBLIC USE AS WELL.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN>>REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN: I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK’S QUESTION HOW MUCH DO WE REALLY NEED IT I DON’T ANY OF YOU REMEMBER BACK REPRESENTATIVE PAY MARWAN REPRESENTATIVE PMR WAS HERE THERE WAS A STUDY DONE AND I WAS LOOKING IN THE AUDIENCE I DON’T SEE ANY DEPARTMENT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE THE ANSWER TO TRY TO ANSWER WHAT YOU ASKED. WHAT IS OUR NEED? THEY ACTUALLY COMPLETED THEIR STUDY AND THERE’S A MAP AND THEY WERE DUE-THEY SPEND IT GEOGRAPHICALLY I DON’T KNOW IF THAT EXISTS. I DON’T SEE ANY DEPARTMENT PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MIGHT LET US KNOW WHETHER IT STILL AVAILABLE BUT IT’S A POINT OF REFERENCE I THINK TO ALL THREE OF THE PROJECTS WE ARE HEARING TODAY.>>CHAIR URDAHL: AS I RECALL IN THOSE DAYS THE MOOD WAS TO CONSOLIDATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I THINK CAMP RIPLEY WOULD BE ONE AND ACTUALLY I THINK YOU’RE TRYING TO GET ALMOST EVERY BUDDY IN CAMP RIPLEY AT ONE TIME.>>REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN: WILL RECALL THE MOTIVATION FOR IT WAS SORT OF LIKE TODAY EVERYONE [INAUDIBLE] SO WE CAN AFFORD THAT SO YOU DO THE STUDY TO SAY WELL HOW CAN WE SERVE EVERYONE AND SO THAT WAS THE IDEA OF LOCATING THEM REGIONALLY. I DON’T KNOW WHETHER THAT STILL INFORMS US TODAY OR NOT BUT AT ANY RATE IT SOMEWHERE ON A SHELTE RED>>CHAIR URDAHL: WE NEVER DID GET THAT SHE WAS FIXED UP IN FEBRUARY. LAB NEXT? REPRESENTATIVE EKLUND>>REPRESENTATIVE ECKLUND: CHIEF OR MR. MAYOR; I LIKE THIS PROPOSAL. I LIKE CONSOLIDATING AND SEEING ALL THE PARTNERS. THE QUESTION IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE ON THIS. IS THERE A COLLECTION AND RECYCLING SYSTEM? BECAUSE YOU RUN A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGH THEIR AND FOR THE POPULATION AREA I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.>>TESTIFIER: I THINK IT’S A VERY INTERESTING DESIGN SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE. A LACK OF A BETTER WORD IT’S A DECREASING FUNNEL TUBE SYSTEM. IN OTHER WORDS YOU SHOOT DOWNRANGE YOU HIT THE SORT OF STEEL TUBE THAT SPINS THE BULLET AND IS SUPPORT THEM SLOWS DOWN BECAUSE OF THE SPINNING AND THE SYSTEM IT AT SOME POINT WILL SIMPLY DROP INTO A SERIES OF COLLECTION BINS EVERY SINGLE BULLET SHOT ON RANGE IS COLLECTED INTO A SERIES OF BINS WHICH THEN WE GO AHEAD AND RECYCLE THESE BINS AS THEY FILL UP. SO EVERY SINGLE SHOT IS RECYCLED THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THERE IS NO DISPOSABLE OF THE SHOT INTO THE SYSTEM. WE SIMPLY RECYCLE.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. WE WERE JUST ABOUT READY TO MOVE ON REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON BUT WE WILL LET YOU>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: VERY QUICKLY MR. CHAIRMAN; LOOKING AT THE LIST THAT WAS HANDED OUT THIS IS NEW HOPE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN IN PARENTHESES IT SAYS MEMBER. IT’S THE ONLY ONE ON THE LIST THAT SAYS MEMBER. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IS THE ONE WHO REPRESENTS NEW HOPE WITHOUT MEANS?>>TESTIFIER: ACTUALLY; THE TOP THREE ARE MEMBERS. ON IT AND PLYMOUTH AND BROOKLYN PARK ARE CONSIDERED MEMBERS. NEW HOPE HAS A MEMBER TYPE BRAIN ARRANGEMENT BUT THAT AGREEMENT IS JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THESE ONES. WE W ON WITH REPRESENTATIVE AND BROOKLYN PARK>>REPRESENTATIVE CARLSON: THE REASON I WAS ASKING THERE I S AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. UNDER THE COST AS BEING A MEMBER WHATEVER THAT MEANT. SO THANK YOU.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THA NK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE SMITH ANY CLOSING COMMENTS>>REPRESENTATIVE SMITH: THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. HOUSE FILE 20 AND 65 REPRESENTATIVE JUERGENS. WELCOME GENTLEMEN. REPRESENTATIVE JUERGENS REPRESENTATIVE FRANKE I GUESS REPRESENTATIVE JUERGENS BEGIN THE PRESENTATION PLEASE.>>REPRESENTATIVE JURGENS: THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL I LIKE TO SAY I DON’T THINK I’VE EVER FELT SAFER THAN THE SPOKEN WITH ALL THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE. WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL I LIKE TO SAY I DON’T THINK I’VE EVER FELT SAFER THAN THE SPOKEN WITH ALL THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE. WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE E. TRAINING METRO CTR. THIS A JOINT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF COTTAGE GROVE IN THE CITY OF WOODBERRY. MEL AT THE TESTIFIERS GIVE YOU MOST OF THE DETAILS. THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ON THE BONDING TOUR LAST YEAR VISITED THE SITE THE LOCATION OF THIS. REPRESENTATIVE FRANKE AND I DISCUSSED IT GOT TO CARRY THIS BILL AND SINCE THE PROPOSAL LOCATION ABOUT TWO BLOCKS FROM MY HOUSE I WON. THIS CONCEPT FOR THIS HERO CENTER HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SINCE AT LEAST 2011. PRIOR TO COME IN THE LEGISLATURE I WAS A MEMBER OF THE COTTA GE GROVE ECONOMIC TO MOMENT AUTHORITY AND EDGE OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE AT THE COMMISSION AND BOTH OF THOSE THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AS YOU WILL HEAR IN A TEST WITH A LEGISLATURE IN 2015 TO PROVIDE $1.45 MILLION IN PLANNING AND DESIGN. THIS PROJECT TRULY IS SHOVEL READY. THEY’RE READY TO GO . IF WE RECEIVE THE BONDING AS SOON AS THE BONDS ARE SOLD THAT BE READY TO BE MOVING DIRT IN SUMMER OR FALL AT THE LATEST. SO WE HAVE TESTIFYING HERE FROM THE CITY WOODBERRY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THE MAYOR MYRON BAILEY FROM COTTAGE GROVE AND PLEASE CAPT. GREG RENDELL FROM COTTAGE. I BELIEVE MIRABELLI IS GOING TO GO FIRST.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU.>>TESTIFIER: GOOD AFTERNOON COULD I MAY OR MYRON BAILEY FROM THE CITY COTTAGE GROVE AND I THANK YOU ALL ALLOW ME TO TESTIFY TODAY AND THE IMPORTANCE AND NEED OF THE SPECTRAL REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY OR BETTER KNOWN TO MANY AS THE HERO CENTER. THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS ALREADY PARTNERED WITH THE HERO CENTER PROVIDING PREVIOUS FUNDING THAT’S ALLOW THE CITY OF COTTAGE GROVE AND WOODBERRY TO DESIGN A FACILITY THAT WILL MEET THE REGIONAL NEEDS. THESE METRO REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY WAS GIVEN BONDING MONEY FOR PRE-DESIGN AND ENGINEERING MONEY IN 2015. AS REPRESENTATIVE JUERGENS MENTIONED 1.45 MILLION TO MAKE THIS PROJECT SHOVEL READY AND I DO WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK CHAIRPERSON URDAHL AND REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN. BOTH OF YOU AND THE REST OF THE LEGISLATURE FOR PROVIDING THAT FUNDING BACK IN 2015. THE SPECTRAL REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY IS AS MENTIONED TRULY SHOVEL READY. A BUSINESS PROJECT IS COMING THIS JULY IN 2018 BEGINS CONSTRUCTION LATER THIS FALL. IF WE ARE AWARE OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. THESE METRO REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY HAS BEEN A VERY LONG PUBLIC PROCESS. BOTH CITY COUNCILS WOODBERRY AND COTTAGE GROVE HAVE SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED AND IMPORTANCE OF IMPROVING TRAINING FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS; EMS; AND POLICE OFFICERS. I WOULD MENTIONED THAT INTERESTING WE HEARD ABOUT MAPLE GROVE EARLIER. THERE IS NO COMPATIBLE WERE COMPARABLE FACILITY IN THE EAST METRO. THIS FACILITY WOULD CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOSTING COMMITTEES BASED SAFETY EDUCATION AND TRAINING PROGRAMS SUCH AS CPR FIREARM SAFETY AND ALSO WILL HAVE AN INDOOR SHOOTING RANGE THAT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF COTTAGE GROVE I WANT WHICH ARE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE WELL TRAINED AND HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAINING THAT OTHER OFFICERS AND THE REST OF THE METRO HAVE. THE HERO OR EAST METRO REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY WILL ADDRESS A VERY IMPORTANT NEED FOR THE ENTIRE REGION AND I HOPE THE STATE WILL PARTNER WITH OUR COMMITTEES TO ENSURE THAT THESE METRO HAS THE SAME ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR TRAINING OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL AS OTHER COMMUNITIES DO. SO I THINK WHAT TO DO IS TURN IT OVER TO THE DIRECTOR PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE CITY OF WOODBERRY LEE BANK.>>CHAIR URDAHL: WELCOME. BEGIN; PLEASE>>TESTIFIER: ERRORS OF THE COMMITTEE; REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN SPOKE JUST WANT TO GO ABOUT TWO STUDIES THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY HAS DONE BOTH IN 1999 AND 2009 BOTH CLEARLY INDICATED A NEED FOR A REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITY IN THE EAST METRO. IF I COULD ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THE COVER OF THE HANDOUT WE JUST GAVE YOU IT DOES PROVIDE A MAP TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE ARE- THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED IN OUR AREA OF EAST METRO. AS THE MAYOR SAID; WE HAVE NO DEDICATED TRAINING FACILITY AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITIES OF COTTAGE GROVE IDENTIFIED ALONG WITH THE STATE AND FOR ABOUT THE LAST EIGHT YEARS WE’VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER. WE KNOW THAT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS IS FOR LOCAL CITIES TO PARTNER WITH YOU. THE STATE. IT HAS TO BE A REGIONAL EFFORT. SO I THIN I THINK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE PROJE AND WE PUT THAT MONEY TO GOOD USE. WE HAVE A DESIGN NOW FOR OVER OVER 40;000 FT. DEDICATED TRAINING SPACE. THIS IS A MULTIUSE SPACE THAT WILL BE USEFUL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT; ALSO FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL RESPONDERS FI RE RESPONDENTS. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW TRAINING HAS CHANGED HOW THINGS EVEN IN EIGHT YEARS OF STUDYING THIS AND IMPLANTING THIS I THINK THERE IS AN ELEVATED NEED NOW AND I THINK THE TIMING OF THIS IS REALLY RIGHT. WHEN I LOOK AROUND AND EVEN SOME OF THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS ARE HAPPENING IN SOME OF THE LIVELY DEBATE DEALING WITH ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENTS AND SCHOOL SAFETY; I THINK THIS REALLY ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS ALL THESE DIFFERENT TO HAVE A PLACE TO TRAIN TOGETHER IT’S A DATE WE HOPE NEVER COMES. IS THAT WORST POSSIBLE DATE LET’S MAKE A DAY A LITTLE BETTER AND I THINK THAT’S WHAT LIFESAVING CAN REALLY TAKE PLACE. I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THIS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERING THIS PROJECT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR SOME TESTIMONY FROM CAPT. GREG RENTZ HE CAN GIVE YOU SOME DETAILS ON WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THE FACILITY AND HOW THE DIFFERENT FORCES CAN WORK TOGETHER.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU CHIEF. WELCOME. IDENTIFY YOURSELF; PLEASE>>TESTIFIER: PLEASE CAPT. WITH THE CITY OF COTTAGE GROVE.>>CHAIR URDAHL: LAST NAME AGAIN; PLEASE.>>CHAIR URDAHL: [INAUDIBLE] TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT FACILITY WOULD LOOKS LIKE.>>TESTIFIER: ON THE HANDOUTS THERE’S AN INSERT THAT LEAVES OUT THE BILL ON HOW IT’S DESIGNED AND IMPLEMENTED FOR TRAINING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COMMANDER CHRIS AND I FROM WOODBERRY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MANY YEARS. SINCE 2011. TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A DESIGN FACILITY THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE LOCAL AREA; THE REGION; THE ENTIRE STATE AND REALLY NATIONALLY AS AN EXCELLENT CENTER FOR TRAINING FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. THE CENTER IS LAID OUT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF TRAINING SO LIKE ANY TRAINING FACILITY OR ANY TRAINING AS YOU HEARD FROM THE CHIEF FROM MAPLE GROVE HE WANTED TO STATE OF ART YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY THAT STARTS WITH ONE THING AND ENDS WITH ANOTHER AND IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU’RE DOING TRAINING IN THE BEGINNING TO END YOU DON’T WANT TO JUST CLASSROOM AND ENDED. WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO CLASSROOM YOU WANT TO PRACTICAL APPLICATION YOU WANT TO TEST THE SKILLS OF THE PEOPLE THAT NOW HAVE THOSE PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS THEY WANT TO END IT WITH A SCENARIO-BASED TRAINING TO ESTABLISH WHAT THEY’VE LEARNED THROUGHOUT THE DAY IS TRULY BEST PRACTICES IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT’S WHAT THIS FACILITY HAS TWO OFFER. MOSTLY DIFFERENT POT SET UP SO CANNOT ONLY BE USED BY A SINGLE AGENCY ON ALL DIFFERENT FACETS BUT ALSO BE USED BY MULTIPLE AGENCIES AT THE SAME TIME TOGETHER WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH ONE ANOTHER WHAT I MEAN BY THAT WE COULD HAVE 4-5 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ALL TRAINING WITHIN THE FACILITY AT THE EXACT SAME TIME MOVING INTO DIFFERENT PARTS WERE DIFFERENT AREAS OF TRAINING ALL CONCENTRATE ON A SPECIFIC TASK. SO THE BUILDING IS LAID OUT IN THAT MANNER. THERE’S ALSO AN OUTSIDE TRAINING FOR TWO BUILDINGS APPEAR TO BE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES HOUSES SO THE OFFICER WOULD DRIVE UP JUST LIKE THEY WOULD RESPOND TO DOMESTIC SITUATION WHERE NEITHER TYPE OF INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED AND BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT FROM BEGINNING TO END. THE FACILITY IS TRULY IN OUR OPINION BEST TYPE BUILD JUST LIKE WE SEE ALL THROUGHOUT THE NATION WE REALLY LOOK AT THIS IS SOMETHING FOR THE REGION TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF SHOWCASE OUR ABILITIES TO TRAIN AS GROUPS. WE BOTH RUN PEOPLE PUBLIC SAFETY APARTMENT WHICH IS POLICE FIRE AND EMS ARE LOWER UNDER ONE UMBRELLA’S WE’VE ALREADY BROKEN OH SO WE DON’T COME AND RESPOND TO A SINGLE USERS. WE WORK AND ON WITH EMS AND FIREFIGHTERS THAT A LOT OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE ALSO PARAMEDICS IN WOODBERRY. RUSSELL FIREFIGHTERS WERE ALL UNDER ONE UMBRELLA AND ONE TEAM AND IT’S A WORKING RELATIONSHIP TOGETHER TO HANDLE AN INCIDENT IS REALLY AN INTEGRAL PART OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRST RESPONSE TRAINING>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU A QUESTION THAT PROBABLY BISHOP AND ASKED HIM MAPLE GROVE AS WELL. HOW MANY DAYS IN A YEAR DO YOU EXPECT YOU WOULD BE OPEN FOR TRAINING?>>TESTIFIER: THAT WAS PART OF OUR BUSINESS MODEL AND IT’S NOT A SECRET. WE WENT TO BOTH [INAUDIBLE] WHICH IS A BLOOMINGTON AND WITH METRO AND STOLE HER BUSINESS PLANS. WE LOOKED AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AND THE REASON WE START WITH THE CENTER WHERE YARD NOW IS WE WENT TO THOSE FACILITIES TO TRY TO USE THOSE FACILITIES. THEY ARE TRULY OUT OF SPACE. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR THEIR EXTRA OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN THEIR SO WHEN WE WROTE THE BUSINESS MODEL WE THINK OF OURSELVES AS KIND OF A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TRAINING FACILITY WEEKENDS WE ARE TRYING TO OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC FOR DNR HUNTER SAFETY OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC FOR RANGE USE BECAUSE YOU KNOW ANY BILL OR ANY CASH THAT IS GIVEN TO A COMMUNITY HAS TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR RANGES AND HAS TO HAVE BUILT INTO THE FACILITY AND USE.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. DON’T TALK MUCH IT’S MORE LIKE MODELING AFTER. [LAUGHING] SPEAKS>>TESTIFIER: WE RELOCATED THEIR PLAN>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE POSTON>>REPRESENTATIVE POSTON: REPRESENTATIVE JUERGENS I DON’T RECALL FROM THE SUMMER THIS IS ASKING FOR WAS $10 MILLION IS THE AMOUNT THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY ARE PUTTING INTO THIS PROJECT? WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT? REPRESENTATIVE JUERGENS ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT BETWEEN THE CITY WOODBERRY AND THE CITY OF COTTAGE GROVE.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE UGLEM>>REPRESENTATIVE UGLEM: CAPT.; SO YOU MENTIONED THAT CURRENTLY YOU BEEN GOING TO SOUTH METRO NORTH METRO THINGS LIKE THAT. HOW DOES THAT TRAVEL TIMES IMPACT YOUR PERSONAL COSTS; YOUR STAFFING; OVER TIME THINGS LIKE THAT? I MEAN TO YOU HAVE ANY HANDLE WHAT KIND OF SAVINGS YOU WOULD HAVE HAVING THIS FACILITY IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD?>>TESTIFIER: IT’S A GREAT QUESTION. IT SOMETHING THAT WE WRESTLED WITH. AS YOU KNOW TRAVELING ON 494 694 LOOP DURING ANY TIME WHERE VEHICLES ARE MOVING FOR RUSH HOUR BECOMES ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. WE DID SOME STUDIES EARLY ON AND WE LOOK AT THE GAY 30 YEAR RECAPTURE AND JUST FOR PERSONAL COSTS WE ARE OVER $1 MILLION IN PERSONAL COSTS JUST FOR TRAVEL IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THAT WAS COTTAGE GROVE’S COST. WOODBERRY IS ON TOP OF THAT SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND TIME THAT IS BEING USED ON THE HIGHWAYS DRIVING BACK AND FORTH TO THE FACILITY THAT ISN’T REALLY NEAR US.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: MAYBE REPRESENTATIVE DEHN WANT TO ASSESS BUT I DO LIKE THE QUESTION ALINA THINKING THERE BUT THAT A BUSINESS MODEL WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE BUYING IN AND SO ON IN NORTH METRO SO YOU ARE JUST TALKING TO CITIES SO I MEAN YOU SEE THE SAME SORT OF MODEL SERVING ALL THE CITIES IN THE EAST METRO?>>CHAIR URDAHL: CHIEF?>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR MODEL AND WE ARE LOOKING AT VERY DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS. SO SIMILARLY WE WOULD HAVE MEMBER AGENCIES . THE VERY FIRST MEMBER AGENCY THAT WERE SPEAKING WITH IS THE SHERIFF’S OFFICE WASHING COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE AND LARGE AGENCY. WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT ON THESE METRO AREA THE POLICE AGENCIES AND SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT THAT WE WORK WITH EVERY SCHOOL DAY HAS THE SAME NEEDS THE POLICE OF COTTAGE GROVE DENSITIES WOODBERRY HAVE. SO THIS IS VERY MUCH A REGIONAL FACILITY AND AS WE DID OUR STUDY LOOKING AT BOTH THE SOUTH METRO AND NORTH METRO IT JUST MADE US EVEN MORE CONFIDENT THAT WE KNOW THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED A FACILITY AND ARE DOING WITH THE SAME TRAVEL ISSUES THAT WE JUST COVERED. WITH REPRESENTATIVE’S QUESTION. SO WE WANT TO BE LEADERS IN THIS AREA AND WE THINK THAT THESE TWO CITIES ARE IN A GOOD POSITION TO DO THAT BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT IS VERY MUCH A REGIONAL CENTER. WE WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO ANY MEMBERSHIP AGENCIES AND LOOKING IN A VERY SIMILAR WAY YOU HEARD EARLIER TESTIMONY.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: SO IT DOESN’T NEED TO BE ASKED BUT IF WE HAD SOMEBODY FROM FOREST LAKE FOR EXAMPLE WANTING TO DEVELOP A SERVICE CENTER SIMILARLY WE WOULD SAY NO; YOU HAVE ONE THAT DOWN THERE IN SOUTH METRO. HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD BE GOOD.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE DETTMER>>REPRESENTATIVE DETTMER: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. ARE YOU GOING TO BE IN THE NORTHEAST METRO WHAT ARE THE PLANS THEREFORE A TRAINING CENTER? OR; WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO CONDUCT TRAINING AT THE CENTER OF YOUR CENTER?>>TESTIFIER: I CAN TAKE THAT. THE CENTER IS BEING BUILT FOR CAPACITY JUST LIKE YOU HEARD MAPLE GROVE CHIEF TALK ABOUT ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH TWO MEMBER AGENCIES THAT GOT TOGETHER KNOWING THERE WAS A NEED THAT WAS QUICKLY FILLED WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND NOW THERE’S OVERFILLED SO THE CENTER ITSELF WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT TH AT 600 OFFICES CAN TRAIN AT THAT FACILITY AT ANY GIVEN TIME OF THE YEAR. SO WITH THAT CAPACITY WE ARE MORE THAN COMFORTABLE THAT THESE METRO AND NORTHEAST METRO WOULD BE COVERED WITHIN THE FACILITY IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THE TRAINING THERE.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE AND JUERGENS REPRESENTATIVE FRANKE ANY FINAL; SPEAK WITH>>REPRESENTATIVE JURGENS: I JUST TOOK ON A FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON RE PRESENTATIVE RUNBECK’S QUESTION THERE HAS BEEN EXPRESSED INTEREST BY OTHER COMMITTEES IN OUR AREA TO TRAIN AT THIS FACILITY JUST PENDING THE AVAILABILITY AND HOW FAST IS GOING TO FILL UP AND WHO’S GONNA TAKE THE PRIMARY SLOT AND ROLLED SO THERE’S DEFINITELY A NEED OUT THERE WITHIN OUR AREAS TENFOLD I WOULD SAY. I WOULD JUST LIKE MEMBERS TO REMEMBER WE ARE SHOVEL READY THIS IS MULTIFACETED; MULTIUSE. IT COVERS BROAD-SPECTRUM’S PUBLIC SAFETY. NOT ONLY POLICE BUT ALSO THE FIRE AND EMS IN OUR AREA FROM BEGINNING TO END TRAINING AND ALSO POTENTIALLY MASS CASUALTY TRAINING ALSO. SO THERE IS THAT POSSIBILITY . SO THE CENTER IS JUST HOPEFULLY JUST WANT TO GET YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE JUERGENS>>REPRESENTATIVE JURGENS: JESSEN CONCLUSION WAS THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BICAMERAL SUPPORT AND HAS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND HAS LOCAL SUPPORT WITH THE CITIES OF COTTAGE GROWS AND HASTINGS AS WELL. WE WITH THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS PROJECT.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE ONE MORE BILL BEFORE US. HOUSE FILE 2922 REPRESENTATIVE BARR>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU CHAIR URDAHL>>CHAIR URDAHL: WELCOME. REPRESENTATIVE BAR BEING THE FIRST TIME I’VE PRESENTED BEFORE THE COMMITTEE I HAVE TREATS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: [INAUDIBLE]>>CHAIR URDAHL: [INAUDIBLE]>>REPRESENTATIVE BARR: THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY. REALLY DELIGHTED TO BRING THIS PROJECT FORWARD TO GOING TO COUNTY SMART REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER BONDING INITIATIVE AND SMART I WANT TO POINT OUT STANDS FOR SAFETY AND MENTAL HEALTH ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE TRAINING. THIS FACILITY BRINGS TOGETHER A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT ACTIVITIES THAT WAS ABOARD PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATIONS IN A REGION. AMONG OTHER THINGS IT WILL PROVIDE A HOME FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING IN OUR AREA. I THINK THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE NEED FOR THIS TRAINING HAS BECOME INCREASINGLY OBVIOUS. WE MANDATED THIS TRAINING FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER LAST SESSION. WE AGREED TO FUND IT BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATURE LEAVES THAT IT IS WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO IMPROVE OUR RESPONSE TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISES AND PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OTHER REASONS. THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE JUST A PRIORITY FOR DAKOTA COUNTY THIS YEAR. IN THIS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR ENTIRE REGION. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE. WE VOTED TO SUPPORT CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS SO THAT THEY COULD BETTER DEAL WITH PEOPLE AND A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST AND MR. CHAIR; I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DAKOTA COUNTY COMMISSIONER JOE ATKINS MANY OF YOU ALREADY KNOW; TO MAKE SOME INTRODUCTIONS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: COMMISSIONER ATKINS; WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE.>>TESTIFIER: IT’S GOOD TO BE BACK. SELF-IMPOSED YOUR LONG ABSENCE BUT I AM BACK. IT’S GENUINELY NICE TO SEE YOU.>>CHAIR URDAHL: WE EXCITED>>TESTIFIER: YOU ARE EXCITED TO BE GONE FOR A YOU COULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. I APPRECIATE THE REP HE CAN BAR FOR BRINGING THE BILL. THIS MAY BE THE MOST IMPORTANT BONDING PROJECT I’VE EVER BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH AND I’VE AS REPRESENTATIVE HAS BEEN KNOWS WE HAVE SOME GOOD STUFF. THIS ONE THOUGH; I GIVE COMMISSIONER HOBART FORMER REPRESENTATIVE HOBART SHE TALKED ABOUT THIS TAKES A VERY BEST PRACTICES FOR PUBLIC HEALTH COMBINES THEM WITH VARIOUS PRACTICES PUBLIC SAFETY TO DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND MENTAL ILLNESS CRISIS. THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS ARE DOING WITH. THAT’S THE DEVELOPMENT THOSE SOFT SKILLS. THAT’S WHAT SETS THIS PROJECT APART SO DRAMATICALLY FROM ANYTHING ELSE WE’VE EVER SEEN. WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE’VE GOT CHIEFS OF SCHAEFER AND MS. RICK FROM [INAUDIBLE] AND WEST ST. PAUL HERE AS WELL AS CHIEF SCHAEFER FROM HASTINGS SENDS HIS REGARDS. LAW ENFORCEMENT IS VERY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROPOSAL. AS REPRESENTATIVE ARE SAID ONE PRIORITY IN DAKOTA COUNTY. AND WE HAVE A BRIEF VIDEO TO SHARE IN A PROMISE YOU IT’S BRIEF. THE DEMONSTRATE WITH THE SMART CENTER DOES THAT IS A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS MENTAL ILLNESS CRISES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN ENCOUNTER WHEN IT IS CRUCIAL SITUATIONS. WITHOUT MR. CHAIR IF IT’S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU I LIKE TO SHOW THE VIDEO.>>CHAIR URDAHL: HOW LONG IS IT?>>TESTIFIER: VERY BRIEF>>CHAIR URDAHL: LIFETIME TO EAT MY CUPCAKE?>>TESTIFIER: I THINK IT’S UNDER THREE-MONTH MINUTES.>>[VIDEO]>>REPRESENTATIVE BARR: PLEASE; ENJOY A COPY AS WELL WE RESOLVE OUR TECHNICAL ISSUE.>>[VIDEO]>>MY FATHER WAS INSTITUTIONALIZED [INAUDIBLE] AND I LIVE THROUGH THAT. WAS IN AND OUT OF MY LIFE A LOT BUT HE WAS NOT A BAD PERSON. JUST HAD TO FIND A PLACE WHERE HE COULD COMMUNICATE WITH HIM.>>WERE ALL SEEN A TREMENDOUS UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF CALLS WE GET WITH RESPECT TO MENTAL ILLNESS OR PEOPLE IN CRISIS.>>WE NEED TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO [INAUDIBLE] MENTAL ILLNESS AND HOW TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THEIR CRISIS.>>PROBABLY ONE THIRD OF THE OFFICERS IN MINNESOTA HAVE BEEN TRAINED AT THIS POINT. THAT WOULD BE TRAINED IN A 40 HOUR CAP CLASS. I WOULD SAY YOU PROBABLY HAVE HALF THAT’S BEEN TRAINED EIGHT HOURS ON WHAT THE ISSUES ARE OF CONCERN ARE.>>A LOT OF THE PUSH FOR CRISIS DE-ESCALATION TRAINING CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING HAS COME ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE TRAGEDY THAT SOMEONE WITH A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS IN THE MIDDLE OF A MENTOR CRISIS WAS KILLED. WE DON’T WANT TO SEE THOSE TRAGEDIES WE THINK MANY OF THEM ACTUALLY CAN BE AVOIDED. [INAUDIBLE].>>THE SMART CENTER WILL BE A VENUE WHERE POLICE OFFICERS AND SHERIFF’S DEPUTIES ACROSS THE STATE RECEIVED CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING AND PRACTICE THEIR SKILLS AND REALISTIC SCENARIOS. TRAINING OFFICERS WILL DE-ESCALATE INCIDENTS INVOLVING PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS INCREASES THE SAFETY OF OFFICERS IN THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.>>PRESENTLY; WE ARE GOING TO WHEREVER WE CAN FIND SPACE>>THE RECENT NAMI SPORTS THE SMART CENTER WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE POLICE TRAINING AROUND MENTAL ILLNESS IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE. HAVING A PLACE TO GO MAKE IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE.>>THIS IS [INAUDIBLE] EVERYONE CAN COME EVEN THE SOUTH METRO GOODHUE AND SCOTT AND CARVER AND ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OLMSTED COUNTY CAN MAKE A TRIP UP.>>THE NEXT PROGRESSION THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT BE UP TO THE CHALLENGE. WE ALL SIX OF THE CHALLENGE THAT DECIDED TO GIVE US MIRANDA; TAPE RECORDING INTERVIEWS. UP TO THE CHALLENGE OF THOSE WE CAN STEP UP TO THIS CHALLENGE AS WELL.>>>>REPRESENTATIVE BARR: THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.>>I LIKE TO TURN THINGS OVER TO DAKOTA COUNTY CHIEF DEPUTY LEGO>>CHAIR URDAHL: DEPUTY LEGO>>TESTIFIER: I’M CHIEF DEPUTY WITH DAKOTA COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE. TAKE YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. AS YOU JUST SAW IN THAT VIDEO OUR WORLD IS CHANGING. THE PROFESSION IS CHANGING WE MUST CHANGE WITH IT. THE MAN’S PLACE ON LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE REST OF THE STATE IS FACING WITH INCREASED NUMBER OF CALLS PEOPLE IN CRISIS AND MENTAL ILLNESS IN ORDER TO MEET THESE CHALLENGES W E HAVE REPRESENTATIVE CRITICAL TO TRAIN OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WITH THE SKILLS AND TOOLS TO BE EFFECTIVE AND THAT INCLUDES SOFT TRAINING SKILLS WE TALKED ABOUT AND YOU HEARD EARLIER TODAY TRADITIONAL POLICE TRAINING REVOLVES AROUND TRAINING WITH THOSE TOOLS ARE ON YOUR BELT WE STILL NEED TO TRAIN ON THOSE TOOLS. WE ALSO NEED TO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEIR OFFICERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS ARE EQUIPPED WITH THOSE TOOLS AND THROUGH THE CIT TRAINING YOU’RE ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT. LEGISLATURE ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANCE OF NEW TRAINING FOR POLICE OFFICERS. LAST YEAR AS YOU KNOW THEIR EQUINE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING. LAW ENFORCEMENT FIRST RESPONDERS ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT TRAINING IN THE REGION AND STATEWIDE CAN SUBMIT A LIST OF PARTNERS ON THE HANDOUT ON THE BACK REPORTERS THAT THEY ALSO RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR THIS TRAINING. LAST YEAR WE DAKOTA COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE WE SENT OVER HALF OF OUR LICENSE PEACE OFFICER THROUGHOUT TRAINING. OUR DEPUTIES 40 HOUR TRAINING A WEEK FOR CIT AND TRANSLATED INTO SOME SUCCESS STORIES. I’LL SURE BE FUN WITH YOU. IT OCCURRED LAST NOVEMBER WERE A DEPUTY RESPONDED TO A CALL A MAN WHO IS IN CRISIS YOU WANTED TO COMMIT SUICIDE. HIS WIFE WAS IN THE BASEMENT WITH THEM AND TRY TO TAKE THE GUN FROM HIM THEY INTENDED TO USE ON HIMSELF. WHEN DEPUTIES ARRIVED THEY WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THEM IN THE BASEMENT AND A FORTIFIED ROOM BASICALLY AND WERE ABLE -THE ONE DEPUTY THAT RESPONDED JUST COMPLETED A 40 HOUR TRAINING FOR CIT MONTHS PRIOR AND VERY GOOD COMMUNICATOR HE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH A MALE AND HAVE THEM EVENTUALLY RELEASE THE WIFE. SO SHE WAS SAFE. THE MAN STILL INTENDED TO HURT HIMSELF BUT AT THAT POINT HE WAS NO LONGER HOSTAGE SITUATION TO THE CONTINUOUS DIALOGUE AND RREPORT THAT OFFICER THAT DEPUTY; ACQUIRED THROUGH THIS TRAINING ; HE WAS ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT RAPPORT WITH THEM AND CONVINCE THEM TO PUT THE GUN DONE WE COULD HAVE THEM COME OUT AND EVENTUALLY BRING THEM TO HEALTH. THAT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS COULD HAVE REALLY GONE BAD WITHOUT INTERPERSONAL SKILLS IN THE TRAINING THAT WAS OBTAINED THROUGH THIS COURSE. SO WE BELIEVE IN CIT TRAINING. YOURS MONEY TO LEGISLATURES TRAINING REQUIREMENTS WITH A REGIONAL SMART CENTER . THIS IS A UNIQUE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY BECAUSE THE IMPETUS OF THIS PROJECT DESIRED TO PROVIDE A REGIONAL HOME FOR MINNESOTA CIT TO CONDUCT ITS TRAINING AND GIVE FIRST RESPONDERS THE TOOLS AND THE IT SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY RESOLVE CALLS FOR CRISIS. WE ARE EXCITED TO BE A PARTNER WITH CIT. IT IS CIT UNTIL THE SUPPORT OF DOCTORS REGIONAL FIRST RESPONDERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES BUT ALSO LEADERS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS COMMUNITY INCLUDING NAMI NATIONAL LINES OF MINNESOTA ILLNESS SUE ABERHOLDEN AS YOU ARE FROM EARLIER IS HERE PRESENT WITH US AND CAN PROBABLY OFFER ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS LATER ON IF YOU HAVE ANY WITH THAT. I’LL TURN IT OVER TO MIKE PEARSON WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MINNESOTA CIT.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. WELCOME MR. PETERSON. INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.>>TESTIFIER: MY NAME IS MICHAEL PETERSON. I’M A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER. AFTER RETIREMENT WENT BACK AND GOT A DEGREE IN MENTAL HEALTH LICENSED THERAPIST AND FOR 13 YEARS OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THE MINNESOTA CIT AND OU R GOAL HAS BEEN FOR 13 YEARS TO TRAIN POLICE OFFICERS MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS FIRST RESPONDERS ON HOW TO RESPOND TO CRISIS SITUATIONS AND DEVELOP A CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER F ROM THE INITIALLY ARRIVE WHAT I CALL PRESENTLY IS A NONPROFIT WE WORK OUT OF OUR HOMES .. OUR HOME OFFICES. WE STORE ANY OF OUR SUPPLIES IN A STORAGE FACILITY AND WHEN A CLASS IS PUT ON WE GO TO THAT HOST AGENCY AND USE THAT FACILITY. SO IN FEBRUARY WE WERE IN ITS LOCATION RIGHT HERE PROVIDING TRAINING FOR THE CAPITAL SECURITY AND THE MINNESOTA STATE PATROL THAT’S ASSIGNED TO THE CAPITAL. NEXT WEEK WILL BE IN MAPLE GROVE DIVIDE IN THAT TRAINING. EACH TIME WE GO SOMEWHERE THERE’S THE POSSIBILITY OF THE PRESENT OR NOT KNOWING WHITHER GOING TO BE FOR THE ATTENDEES HAVING A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT WHERE THAT CLASS IS GOING TO BE. AND SO THIS OFFERS US AN OPPORTUNITY OF A PERMANENT LOCATION WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS NOT ONLY THE 40 HOUR DEED THE CIT PROGRAM AND WE CAN ALSO ADDRESS THE ONGOING NEED FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION AND BUILDING THOSE TEAMS WITH A BETTER RESPONSE ALL IN ALL. I THINK YOU HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY ABOUT THE MANDATE OF WHAT’S GOING TO BE REQUIRED OF POLICE OFFICERS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I DON’T THINK THIS TRAINING IS EVER GOING TO STOP. THESE ARE PERISHABLE SKILLS. IF YOU’RE NOT PRACTICING ACTIVE LISTENING; EMPATHETIC MY UNDERSTANDING; COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH A CRISIS SITUATION THOSE SKILLS DON’T GO AWAY WITH A DO NEED TO BE HONED FROM TIME TO TIME. SO WE’VE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE BRING PROFESSIONAL ACTORS INTO PLAY THOSE ROLES AND CHALLENGE THE OFFICERS ON HOW TO SAY STAY SAFE AND KEEP THE PERSON WHO STRUGGLING SAFE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>>CHAIR URDAHL:>>REPRESENTATIVE BARR: THANK YOU MR. CHAIR BUT I LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY.. THE DAKOTA COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN AND I DO BELIEVE THERE’S A HANDOUT IN YOUR PACKET.. I WAS ONE O F THE VERY FIRST QUESTIONS I ASKED IS ONCE THE FACILITY IS BUILT HOW ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO PAY FOR ONGOING THEY HAVE THE LOCAL FUNDING SHARE ALREADY BUDGETED. THEY JUST NEED THE $6 MILLION BONDING MATCH. MATT SMITH DAKOTA COUNTY MANAGER IS ALSO WITH US THIS AFTERNOON TO HELP ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. I WAS HERE LISTENING TO SOME OF THE OTHER BILLS THAT WERE BEING PRESENTED WAS ABLE TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND I WANTED TO JUST PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS REPRESENTATIVE HAUSMAN YOU MENTION A STUDY FROM I BELIEVE IT WAS 1999. DAKOTA COUNTY SHERIFF LESLIE; WHO WAS REALLY LAM INSTRUMENT WHEN PULLING TOGET ASSOCIATION ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THIS WAS ACTUALLY AT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WAS IN [INAUDIBLE] INSTRUMENT AND PUT IN A REPORT AND HE ACTUALLY FOLLOW THAT AS A TEMPLATE FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THIS PROJECT IT REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK US SOME OF THE QUESTIONS OF SOME THE OTHER PRESENTERS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THIS HAS UNIQUE FOCUS IN TERMS OF ITS FOCUS ON THAT INTERPERSONAL SORT OF IF YOU WILL THE SOFT SKILLS THAT SO OFTEN GET OVERLOOKED VERSUS SOME OF THE HARD SKILLS TRAINING THAT WE’VE HEARD TODAY. THEN; REPRESENTATIVE DEHN; YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT WHETHER OR N OT OTHER AREAS WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE TRAINING TO ADDITION TO THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN YOUR PACKET THERE’S ALREADY BEEN OTH ER REQUESTS FROM OTHER COUNTIES TO SEE IF THEY COULD ACTUALLY USE THIS FACILITY. SO I REALLY FEEL IT’S NOT ONLY A REGIONAL ASSET THAT WOULD ALSO BE A STATE ACID AS WELL. SO WITH THAT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT EACH OF US KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR COMMUNITIES AND PUBLIC SAFETY TO RESPOND WELL TO AN EXCELLENT ACTUALLY ACTUALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THAT WE ARE FACING AND I BELIEVE THAT THE SMART CENTER CAN HELP US DO THAT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. I CAN THINK OF OTHER TESTIMONY HILLS WE’VE HAD TODAY THE CRISIS CENTER [INAUDIBLE] DOVETAILS WELL TRAINING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. MR. SMITH TO HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?>>TESTIFIER: I’M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER A QUESTION BUT THE PRESENTERS DONE A GREAT JOB LAYING OUT THE PROPOSAL. WE WERE NUMBER MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AS WELL.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE DEHN>>REPRESENTATIVE DEHN: I’M NOT SO SURE WHO THE PERSON THAT WOULD ANSWER THIS I THINK IT’S GREAT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FACILITY FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING MY CONCERN OR SOMETHING THAT HASN’T BEEN TALKED ABOUT IT APPEARS THAT ONE THIRD OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS FOR THE DAKOTA COUNTY DRUG TASK FORCE. IF SOMEONE COULD SORT OF ADDRESS THAT AND WHAT THAT ROLE IS. IS THERE ANY SORT OF CROSS SYNERGY THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THEM OR IS IT JUST THE DRUG TASK FORCE IS IN THE BUILDING AND SO IS CIT?>>CHAIR URDAHL: WHICH ONE OF YOU. DEBBIE LICO>>TESTIFIER: THE DRUG TASK FORCE IS A COMPONENT OF THIS AND A PORTION OF THE BUILDING . THE CIT HAS BEEN MAIN FACE OF THIS TO BE AN AREA WHERE THEY HAVE BASICALLY THE BASEMENT WHERE THEY CAN HOUSE THEM THERE CURRENTLY INTERRUPT RENTAL PROPERTY RIGHT NOW AND THEY’RE OUT GROWING THAT AS WELL. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITE CRITICIZE THE BUILDING AND MAYBE WE COULD PUT THE DRUG TASK FORCE. THAT’S ALSO REGIONAL COLLABORATION AS WELL. IT’S NOT JUST DAKOTA COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE. IT INCLUDES ALL THE CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITY OF SAVAGE THAT COMPRISES THAT STATE FUND ADDRESS DRUG TASK FORCE THEY WOULD TAKE UP A PORTION OF THE BASEMENT AT THE LOWER LEVEL OF THAT BUILDING. THERE ARE SOME CROSSES MAYBE MIKE CAN TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS HOW THE MENTAL ILLNESS AND CIT DOES COST TO DO SOME OF THE DRUG USE AND INFORMATION SHARING BENEFICIAL BEEN IN THE SAME BUILDING.>>CHAIR URDAHL: MR. PETERS>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU. WE DO SEE WE HAVE ORIGINAL DESK TASK F WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN CRISIS IT’S NOT ALWAYS THAT IT’S JUST A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. THERE MAY BE AN ECONOMIC CRISIS THAT MAY BE A FAMILY CRISIS. THERE MAY BE A BUSINESS CRISIS WITH A DRUG DEALER THEY ARE WORKING WITH; TOO. IN ALL OF THAT; WE WILL WORK WITH AND HAVE WORKED WITH MANY PEOPLE ON DRUG TASK FORCE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION; HOW TO TALK SOMEONE INTO COMPLIANCE FIND THE HELP AS OPPOSED TO CONFRONTATION. SO I THINK WOULD WORK WELL AND I KNOW JUST RUBBING ELBOWS AND SEEN EACH OTHER ON A DAILY BASIS THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOME OF THOSE SKILLS BACK AND FORTH.>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE DEHN>>REPRESENTATIVE DEHN: IT HASN’T BEEN MY AWARENESS THAT OVER THE YEARS THAT DRUG TASK FORCE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE REALLY SORT OF GONE DOWN THIS LINE ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] TENDS TO BE SOMETHING ADDRESSED BEFORE SO I’M REALLY EXCITED THAT MAYBE YOU ARE MERGING THESE TWO THINGS TOGETHER AND WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT WAY OF USING DRUG TASK FORCE TO GO OUT THERE TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER AND ADDRESS ISSUES OF DRUGS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I AM ASSUMING THOUGH THEY WILL BE GO ING AFTER PRESCRIBERS OF OPIOIDS?>>CHAIR URDAHL: REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: DO YOU HAVE A SITE LOCATION?>>TESTIFIER: WE HAVE A SITE THAT’S CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF MAPLE GROVE HEIGHTS NEAR THE JUNCTION OF HIGHWAY 52-55. COURTHOUSE BOULEVARD AND CONCORD BOULEVARD. THE CITY HAS OFFERED US -THIS IS A SITE THE CITY OWNS TO BUILD A FIRE STATION OF THE PORTION THEY’RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER ON THIS AND SO THEY OFFERED US THE SITE TO ITS ALREADY OWNED BY THE CITY. WE HAVE IN THE MATERIALS A LITTLE DIAGRAM OF SORT OF HOW SMART CENTER WILL FIT ON THAT SITE.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE LILLIE>>REPRESENTATIVE LILLIE: REPRESENTATIVE LOOKS LIKE ANY PROJECT THERE AND I’VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD HOMEWORK AND THE VIDEO IS POWERFUL I THOUGHT. ON A LIGHTER NOTE THOUGH IF YOU PLAN TO HAVE A AMENDMENT OR ANYTHING OR WANT TO DO A DIFFERENT BILL BUT THE PREVIOUS REPRESENTATIVE FOR YEARS AND YEARS HAD PROBLEMS. I KNOW WE BUILT THIS BRIDGE IN THIS BRIDGE REALLY DOESN’T GO ANYWHERE. SO MAYBE YOU COULD FINISH IT? IT COULD BE A AMENDMENT OR SOMETHING YOU DO. IT WAS REALLY A WEAK SPOT. [LAUGHING]>>CHAIR URDAHL: VERY GOOD. REPRESENTATIVE SAUKE>>REPRESENTATIVE SAUKE: IS THIS TRAINING REGIONALLY OFFERED OR IS IT IN THE PARADIGM OF LIKE A SMALL REGION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT OLMSTED COUNTY BOTH SHERIFF AND CITY OF ROCHESTER AND VARIOUS OTHERS ARE VERY EMBEDDED INTO CIT TRAINING. SO DO THEY GET THAT THROUGH YOU AND YOU GO DOWN THERE OR WHAT IS THE ARRANGEMENT FOR THE REST OF THE STATE?>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WHAT HAPPENED IS FOUR OLMSTED COUNTY WE WENT THERE DOWN THERE OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD AND PROVIDED TRAINING IN OLMSTED COUNTY BRINGING THEM IN AND ONL Y TRAINING FOR THE OFFICERS RESPONDING BUT ALSO THE BONES OF HOW TO PUT TOGETHER A TRAINING AND ALSO HOW TO PUT TOGETHER A CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM. FROM THAT WE DEVELOP ED THE COACHES AT WHICH POINT NOW WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT THEM BUT THEIR STANDALONE AND THAT’S BEEN OUR GOAL. IT’S ALSO HAPPEN WITH THE CITY OF DULUTH AND ST. LOUIS COUNTY. IS TO BUILD OUT SOME OTHER PEOPLE CAN RUN WITH IT.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU MR. PETERSON AND FINAL WORD OF THE DAY WILL BE FROM REPRESENTATIVE JUERGENS>>REPRESENTATIVE JURGENS: AS YOU KNOW MY DISTRICT IS PART COTTAGE GROVE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY AND ALSO SPANS INTO DAKOTA COUNTY. SUPPORTIVE OF BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS. I SIGNED ON TO REPRESENTATIVE BARR’S BILL AS WELL. I DON’T SEE THIS AS EITHER/OR. AS YOU CAN TELL THE PROJECTS ARE DIFFERENT AND I THINK THIS IS MORE OF AN AND. I THINK THIS COMMITTEE WE SHOULD CONSIDER STRONGLY BOTH PROJECTS.>>CHAIR URDAHL: THANK YOU. NEXT TUESDAY WILL MEET AGAIN. FOR NOW THIS CASE IS CLOSED.>>[GAVEL]>>[ADJOURNMENT]>>

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